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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:12 am

miltiades wrote:Sorry for my error which has now been corrected.

I believe that if and when the Arab countries as well as other ME countries accept the right of Israel to exist then peace will return to the region. For as long as the destruction of Israel remains high on the agenda of most of these nations peace will be achieved.

May I also state that I don't buy these Zionist views and ancient historical facts or hearsay, I firmly believe that peace can be achieved if only Israel was recognized as having the right to exist.

so tell us when did israel actually say that id the palestinians accpet the existance of israel they can have their own state on the west bank and gaza without occupation. did you dream that one up or did it come to you after the third bottle.

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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:25 am

Over the years I have on numerous occasions stated that Israel has the right to exist and so do the Palestinians in their own state.

I have never denied the irrefutable AND UNDENIABLE right of the Palestinian people to have their own state. I have also stated that Israel should withdraw back to it's pre 1967 borders .

One needs to be a realist however. Israel is surrounded by a host of hostile nations, Egypt exempt, nations that would gladly press the button marked " destroy Israel ", lets not kid our selves, if the Arabs and other hostile nations had the military power needed, they would attack and wipe Israel of the map.

The ME is a region that will inevitably and consistently be involved in wars, just look around the region right now, from Libya, to Iraq, Yemen, Syria, wars are going on, the killings, suicide bombers, hatred are rampant driven by people who consider the selves as the ....true believers.

If anyone thinks that the primary reason for these wars is Israel I suggest they carry out a research into ME wars of say the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... iddle_East
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:47 am

Lordo wrote: there is also evidence that jews prior to world war two had a deal with hitler and hitler promised them palestine as a home land ...


And we know who Hitler's genocidal role model was and how this Turkish role model also went back on a deal in not giving the Kurds their homeland. And we know how much the Turks loved Hitler and his Nazis during WWII, now don't we?
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:28 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Lordo wrote: there is also evidence that jews prior to world war two had a deal with hitler and hitler promised them palestine as a home land ...


And we know who Hitler's genocidal role model was and how this Turkish role model also went back on a deal in not giving the Kurds their homeland. And we know how much the Turks loved Hitler and his Nazis during WWII, now don't we?

you is sufficiently educated enough to understand that ocd is the first sign of madness. if unchecked it will lead to total disfunction of the brain. you will not be able leave the house from it. from your posts it sounds as though you is already there. i hope my diagnosis is wrong for your sake. get some medical help before it is too late you hear.

just to alleviate your anxiety, up to this point kerds never spoke about dividing terggy but now they have begun. the people cannot be defeated. either they will defeat erdokunt and pull back all the damage he has caused physically and mentally or it will lead to division into two countries. even if it does terggy will still be able to whip your little big greak fat ass with one little finger. all that will happen is the pain and sorrow that will befall on the both terggish and kerdish people. you will still be in that small minded mental frame of mind and in your own little world that you seem to live in. a world full of hatred salivating at the mouth eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevery time teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerggy enters your head.

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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:32 am

miltiades wrote:Over the years I have on numerous occasions stated that Israel has the right to exist and so do the Palestinians in their own state.

I have never denied the irrefutable AND UNDENIABLE right of the Palestinian people to have their own state. I have also stated that Israel should withdraw back to it's pre 1967 borders .

One needs to be a realist however. Israel is surrounded by a host of hostile nations, Egypt exempt, nations that would gladly press the button marked " destroy Israel ", lets not kid our selves, if the Arabs and other hostile nations had the military power needed, they would attack and wipe Israel of the map.

The ME is a region that will inevitably and consistently be involved in wars, just look around the region right now, from Libya, to Iraq, Yemen, Syria, wars are going on, the killings, suicide bombers, hatred are rampant driven by people who consider the selves as the ....true believers.

If anyone thinks that the primary reason for these wars is Israel I suggest they carry out a research into ME wars of say the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... iddle_East

no no no no no you aint going nowhere nohow with that one.

show me a single word said by any israily politican who has been in power that accepted the rights of the palastenains to exist as a state in the land of the west bank and gaza strip under any conditions.

being surrounded by people who hate you for what you have done to them does not give you the right to continue such treatment as bombing them with warplanes and tanks when they have no means to defend themselves.

israel is full of shit and so are you.

get your mind right old man. you is losin it.
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:45 am

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:Over the years I have on numerous occasions stated that Israel has the right to exist and so do the Palestinians in their own state.

I have never denied the irrefutable AND UNDENIABLE right of the Palestinian people to have their own state. I have also stated that Israel should withdraw back to it's pre 1967 borders .

One needs to be a realist however. Israel is surrounded by a host of hostile nations, Egypt exempt, nations that would gladly press the button marked " destroy Israel ", lets not kid our selves, if the Arabs and other hostile nations had the military power needed, they would attack and wipe Israel of the map.

The ME is a region that will inevitably and consistently be involved in wars, just look around the region right now, from Libya, to Iraq, Yemen, Syria, wars are going on, the killings, suicide bombers, hatred are rampant driven by people who consider the selves as the ....true believers.

If anyone thinks that the primary reason for these wars is Israel I suggest they carry out a research into ME wars of say the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... iddle_East

no no no no no you aint going nowhere nohow with that one.

show me a single word said by any israily politican who has been in power that accepted the rights of the palastenains to exist as a state in the land of the west bank and gaza strip under any conditions.

being surrounded by people who hate you for what you have done to them does not give you the right to continue such treatment as bombing them with warplanes and tanks when they have no means to defend themselves.

israel is full of shit and so are you.

get your mind right old man. you is losin it.

Stick to your halal pork kebabs stupid!!
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:11 am

I found this article quite funny:

Beat this for a piece of spin. Today the Labour party was in trouble over remarks one of its MPs, Naz Shah, made online in 2014 about Israel and Jews. Journalists asked a spokesman for Jeremy Corbyn whether Mrs Shah was anti-Semitic.

“We’re not suggesting she’s anti-Semitic,” said the spokesman. “We’re saying she’s made remarks that she doesn’t agree with.”

To repeat. She’s made remarks… that she doesn’t agree with.

“Solution for Israel-Palestine conflict. Relocate Israel into the United States... The transportation costs will be less than 3 years of defence spending”
A Facebook post shared by Labour MP Naz Shah in 2014
Well, I suppose that makes sense. You can see what must have happened. One evening, as Mrs Shah sat quietly at home, relaxing after a hard day’s community-building, her fingers suddenly started typing out opinions of their own free will. To Mrs Shah’s horror, they were opinions which ran counter to everything she stands for.

“No!” she cried, as the rogue digits tapped mutinously away. “Stop! That isn’t what I think at all! I unequivocally condemn every word of what I’m writing!”

Yet the fingers wouldn’t listen. Powerless to intervene, Mrs Shah wailed in dismay as they published the opinions on Facebook, and then defied her despairing pleas to delete them.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04 ... e/?ref=yfp
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:11 pm

miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:Over the years I have on numerous occasions stated that Israel has the right to exist and so do the Palestinians in their own state.

I have never denied the irrefutable AND UNDENIABLE right of the Palestinian people to have their own state. I have also stated that Israel should withdraw back to it's pre 1967 borders .

One needs to be a realist however. Israel is surrounded by a host of hostile nations, Egypt exempt, nations that would gladly press the button marked " destroy Israel ", lets not kid our selves, if the Arabs and other hostile nations had the military power needed, they would attack and wipe Israel of the map.

The ME is a region that will inevitably and consistently be involved in wars, just look around the region right now, from Libya, to Iraq, Yemen, Syria, wars are going on, the killings, suicide bombers, hatred are rampant driven by people who consider the selves as the ....true believers.

If anyone thinks that the primary reason for these wars is Israel I suggest they carry out a research into ME wars of say the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... iddle_East

no no no no no you aint going nowhere nohow with that one.

show me a single word said by any israily politican who has been in power that accepted the rights of the palastenains to exist as a state in the land of the west bank and gaza strip under any conditions.

being surrounded by people who hate you for what you have done to them does not give you the right to continue such treatment as bombing them with warplanes and tanks when they have no means to defend themselves.

israel is full of shit and so are you.

get your mind right old man. you is losin it.

Stick to your halal pork kebabs stupid!!

beeekledim da geeeeeeelmedi
neoldu buuuuuuuu cevaaaaaab
geldi daaaaaa benmi gormedim
yoksa sen mi topu havalaaading
yaz kardeeshim birsey yaaaaaaazi
okuuunacak biiiiiiiir sheeeeeey
yoksa kaleminmi mi kirildi
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:15 pm

Roughly 75% if the population of Israel is Jewish (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ewpop.html), and
roughly 43% of Jewish people in the world live in Israel (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/js ... ewpop.html).

Ergo, criticising Israel is not per se anti-Semitic because this criticism includes the more than two million non-Jewish Israeli citizens and excludes the roughly six million Jewish people who do not live in Israel.
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Re: Anti-Semitic comments by leading Labour party members

Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:16 pm

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:Over the years I have on numerous occasions stated that Israel has the right to exist and so do the Palestinians in their own state.

I have never denied the irrefutable AND UNDENIABLE right of the Palestinian people to have their own state. I have also stated that Israel should withdraw back to it's pre 1967 borders .

One needs to be a realist however. Israel is surrounded by a host of hostile nations, Egypt exempt, nations that would gladly press the button marked " destroy Israel ", lets not kid our selves, if the Arabs and other hostile nations had the military power needed, they would attack and wipe Israel of the map.

The ME is a region that will inevitably and consistently be involved in wars, just look around the region right now, from Libya, to Iraq, Yemen, Syria, wars are going on, the killings, suicide bombers, hatred are rampant driven by people who consider the selves as the ....true believers.

If anyone thinks that the primary reason for these wars is Israel I suggest they carry out a research into ME wars of say the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... iddle_East

no no no no no you aint going nowhere nohow with that one.

show me a single word said by any israily politican who has been in power that accepted the rights of the palastenains to exist as a state in the land of the west bank and gaza strip under any conditions.

being surrounded by people who hate you for what you have done to them does not give you the right to continue such treatment as bombing them with warplanes and tanks when they have no means to defend themselves.

israel is full of shit and so are you.

get your mind right old man. you is losin it.

Stick to your halal pork kebabs stupid!!

beeekledim da geeeeeeelmedi
neoldu buuuuuuuu cevaaaaaab
geldi daaaaaa benmi gormedim
yoksa sen mi topu havalaaading
yaz kardeeshim birsey yaaaaaaazi
okuuunacak biiiiiiiir sheeeeeey
yoksa kaleminmi mi kirildi
kiiiiirilan keske basin olsaydi.

I take it this is the Turkish recipe for halal pork kebab :lol: :lol:
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