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Re: Paphiti, your views on this kids aviation skills.

Postby Robin Hood » Wed May 25, 2016 9:00 pm

Paphitis wrote:Yeh you just turn your Landing light on when on Finals and shut up. The control tower will find it easier to see you even though your on their screen right in front of them. They might clear an aircraft to take off in the opposite direction and take you out!


What are you rambling on about ? :? ..... or are you trying to be sarcastic? If you are ..... you should take some lessons from Spanner and his feline friend ..... they are masters at it! :roll: :)
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Re: Paphiti, your views on this kids aviation skills.

Postby Maximus » Wed May 25, 2016 9:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:how much does it cost to learn how to fly and how long would it take to get a pilots license. How many lessons, exams, etc.


Depends what you want to do.

Do you want to do it recreationally or professionally?

You can get a Private Licence in less than 12 months including a pass in PPL theory.

But then you need to get a Commercial Licence with Instrument Rating and pass all the ATPL Theory. That will take another 2 years.

Cost is up to 100,000 Euros if you go all the way. The Cheapest way is to go to the USA and get your FAA Licences then go to Europe and sit the EASA Exams and do the Flight Test to convert over.

The best way is to opt for a Integrated Theory and Flight Training Program such as Oxford. It would cost you a lot but getting through the ATPL theory is tough, real tough. Failure rate when I did it was over 90% and that was in the days there was a Morse Code requirement of 10 words per minute send and receive.


Thats expensive and what is the likelyhood of being employed going commercial?

What is the difference in the price between commercial and recreational. How much just to have a license to fly a plane?

Then could I rent a plane whenever I want to fly or would I have to buy one?
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Re: Paphiti, your views on this kids aviation skills.

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 26, 2016 7:52 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:how much does it cost to learn how to fly and how long would it take to get a pilots license. How many lessons, exams, etc.


Depends what you want to do.

Do you want to do it recreationally or professionally?

You can get a Private Licence in less than 12 months including a pass in PPL theory.

But then you need to get a Commercial Licence with Instrument Rating and pass all the ATPL Theory. That will take another 2 years.

Cost is up to 100,000 Euros if you go all the way. The Cheapest way is to go to the USA and get your FAA Licences then go to Europe and sit the EASA Exams and do the Flight Test to convert over.

The best way is to opt for a Integrated Theory and Flight Training Program such as Oxford. It would cost you a lot but getting through the ATPL theory is tough, real tough. Failure rate when I did it was over 90% and that was in the days there was a Morse Code requirement of 10 words per minute send and receive.


Thats expensive and what is the likelyhood of being employed going commercial?

What is the difference in the price between commercial and recreational. How much just to have a license to fly a plane?

Then could I rent a plane whenever I want to fly or would I have to buy one?


You will need to pass the ATPL as well.

Likelihood is very good because of the firm orders of Boeing and Airbus aircraft. There is a projected global shortage with many airlines in the brink of parking aircraft up because they don't have pilots.

Air Macau have just parked up 2 planes in a week. It's not uncommon.

The best bet is go to the USA and do an integrated Theory and Flight Training program which will take you all the way to your AIr Transport Pilot Licence. Some schools will even get you a Green Card and your first job on a B1900, ATR or Dash8. Maybe even an Embraer.

You can do that for a bit then go back to Europe and convert to EASA - simple process of doing Air Law Exam and a Flight Test. Then, like so many Cypriots it's over to the Middle East of Asia which offer great conditions.

Your chances in Cyprus are virtually nil.

Another option is to do your PPL in Cyprus. Then go to USA to do the rest.

Contact these guys if you want to find out more:

http://www.griffonaviation.com
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Re: Paphiti, your views on this kids aviation skills.

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 26, 2016 8:03 am

You can get it all for free to but you will be in the CNG for 10 years. If you are young enough, become a monimos and try to get into the Air Arm. They will send you to Kalamata, Greece for 2 years worth of training. Become an Icaros.

Get the Cyprus Tax Payer to pay for you. 8)

Either way, Aviation takes sacrifice and it always will.

But a career in Aviation means you never work a day in your life so it's worth the sacrifice.
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