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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:04 am

Don't worry about Creating money Robin Hood.

I'm not interested in arguing about money or its creation.

I agree with you and its fantastic, and here to stay! Because it is necessary.

Who said I do not believe Banks create it? For as long as they keep creating it and the economy keeps sponging it up and they continue giving me some, then all is good in the world and everyone prospers. 8)

Without the CB and without Commercial Lenders, you are back in the stone age and you can forget about your free MRI Scan which is funded by the tax payer, or in the RoC's case, borrowings.

So you can see. Nothing is ever for free.

It's not free for the Banks either as we saw with Laiki and BoC.

You should count yourself lucky that the RoC does this in this environment. Because they don't have to. I for one am an economic rationalist. Whilst I believe free health is a great and something to aspire to, I do not believe that the RoC should provide it at the expense of the tax payer when it needs to borrow the money. I believe that if the RoC has $10 in revenue, they should only be spending $9 and not $20.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:27 am

If the following poster is right:

“Under EU rules, medical costs for retired EU citizens resident in another EU country, and receiving a state pension, are billed back to their home country.
I live in France and am retired. My medical costs are billed back to the NHS.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21635041/comments

then this bears out what I believe, and this means that the British National Health Service coughs up for any free medical treatment received by retired British citizens living in Cyprus.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:30 am

An interesting little article from the Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... e-ailments

suggesting that Britain does rather well from free movement in the EU in that it gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys, and gains two million productive young people in their place.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:32 am

Tim Drayton wrote:If the following poster is right:

“Under EU rules, medical costs for retired EU citizens resident in another EU country, and receiving a state pension, are billed back to their home country.
I live in France and am retired. My medical costs are billed back to the NHS.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21635041/comments

then this bears out what I believe, and this means that the British National Health Service coughs up for any free medical treatment received by retired British citizens living in Cyprus.



So in Robin Hoods case, he is happy to be a burden on the British NHS, and then bag the shit out of Britain?

Just goes to show what a hypocrite the poor man is.

Perhaps some humility is in order but all we get is disrespect and stupidity.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:10 am

Tim Drayton:
If the following poster is right:

“Under EU rules, medical costs for retired EU citizens resident in another EU country, and receiving a state pension, are billed back to their home country.

I live in France and am retired. My medical costs are billed back to the NHS.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21635041/comments

then this bears out what I believe, and this means that the British National Health Service coughs up for any free medical treatment received by retired British citizens living in Cyprus.


We are talking Cyprus not France! Common sense says the arrangement should be the same. There is a reciprocal arrangement ..... the cost is NOT back charged to the UK NHS. (as I said there may be some form of cash adjustment ..... but there are Cypriots in the UK that benefit from this arrangement.) Doesn't common sense tell you that such a system of back charging for individual treatments would be administratively unworkable?

I received my information first hand from a reliable MoH source and I would consider she knows the system intimately. If they have it wrong then it doesn't say much for the Cypriot Ministry of Health's level of knowledge.

Believe what you want .... that is your choice.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:12 am

Robin Hood wrote:Tim Drayton:
If the following poster is right:

“Under EU rules, medical costs for retired EU citizens resident in another EU country, and receiving a state pension, are billed back to their home country.

I live in France and am retired. My medical costs are billed back to the NHS.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21635041/comments

then this bears out what I believe, and this means that the British National Health Service coughs up for any free medical treatment received by retired British citizens living in Cyprus.


We are talking Cyprus not France! Common sense says the arrangement should be the same. There is a reciprocal arrangement ..... the cost is NOT back charged to the UK NHS. (as I said there may be some form of cash adjustment ..... but there are Cypriots in the UK that benefit from this arrangement.) Doesn't common sense tell you that such a system of back charging for individual treatments would be administratively unworkable?

I received my information first hand from a reliable MoH source and I would consider she knows the system intimately. If they have it wrong then it doesn't say much for the Cypriot Ministry of Health's level of knowledge.

Believe what you want .... that is your choice.


How has a post on the health system found its way into the Possitive Money thread?????
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:13 am

Robin Hood wrote:Tim Drayton:
If the following poster is right:

“Under EU rules, medical costs for retired EU citizens resident in another EU country, and receiving a state pension, are billed back to their home country.

I live in France and am retired. My medical costs are billed back to the NHS.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21635041/comments

then this bears out what I believe, and this means that the British National Health Service coughs up for any free medical treatment received by retired British citizens living in Cyprus.


We are talking Cyprus not France! Common sense says the arrangement should be the same. There is a reciprocal arrangement ..... the cost is NOT back charged to the UK NHS. (as I said there may be some form of cash adjustment ..... but there are Cypriots in the UK that benefit from this arrangement.) Doesn't common sense tell you that such a system of back charging for individual treatments would be administratively unworkable?

I received my information first hand from a reliable MoH source and I would consider she knows the system intimately. If they have it wrong then it doesn't say much for the Cypriot Ministry of Health's level of knowledge.

Believe what you want .... that is your choice.


Link please? I am sure that there must be a link somewhere to support the reciprocal bilateral arrangement outside of the EU Acquis!

It's not that I don't want to believe you Robin hood, it's just that you're not making it any easy. You have a habit of making unsupported and unsubstantiated claims, before we even get to your Banking nonsense and everything else about Syria, Ukraine, Genocide and just about every other topic such as the allegations of an American Coup in Brazil!
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:35 am

Tim Drayton wrote:An interesting little article from the Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... e-ailments

suggesting that Britain does rather well from free movement in the EU in that it gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys, and gains two million productive young people in their place.


....... gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys....

How disingenuous of you! What you seem to overlook is that these ‘old fogeys’ were the ones whose knowledge and skills developed and provided the advances you now benefit from .... good or bad.

Who developed jet engines, RADAR, anti biotics, x-ray machines, MRI’s, motor cars, Atomic Power (and bombs) micro processors, computers, mobile phones, television, satellites, free education, hearing aids, air conditioning, BIRO’s, defibrulators(sp?), heart transplants, lazer’s, treatment for HIV, birth control, cures for diphtheria and other terminal diseases. The list is endless and my generation and those before me, were the brains behind it.

Without the advances we were responsible for creating the modern world would be a lot different today.

As Paphitis says ....... you should thank us for providing you with a job ....... that keyboard you pound and the associated computer system ....... was developed by my generation, not yours. Don’t you think that me and your parents deserve some sort of recognition for what we did for you. :roll: :x
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:44 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:An interesting little article from the Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... e-ailments

suggesting that Britain does rather well from free movement in the EU in that it gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys, and gains two million productive young people in their place.


....... gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys....

How disingenuous of you! What you seem to overlook is that these ‘old fogeys’ were the ones whose knowledge and skills developed and provided the advances you now benefit from .... good or bad.

Who developed jet engines, RADAR, anti biotics, x-ray machines, MRI’s, motor cars, Atomic Power (and bombs) micro processors, computers, mobile phones, television, satellites, free education, hearing aids, air conditioning, BIRO’s, defibrulators(sp?), heart transplants, lazer’s, treatment for HIV, birth control, cures for diphtheria and other terminal diseases. The list is endless and my generation and those before me, were the brains behind it.

Without the advances we were responsible for creating the modern world would be a lot different today.

As Paphitis says ....... you should thank us for providing you with a job ....... that keyboard you pound and the associated computer system ....... was developed by my generation, not yours. Don’t you think that me and your parents deserve some sort of recognition for what we did for you. :roll: :x


the more I read your posts, the more I am starting to believe in Euthanasia!

I use to think it could be abused by Government, but I am thinking Euthanasia might be the right way to go.
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Re: One for Robin Hood - Positive Money

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:54 am

Tim Drayton wrote:An interesting little article from the Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... e-ailments

suggesting that Britain does rather well from free movement in the EU in that it gets rid of two million non-productive old fogeys, and gains two million productive young people in their place.


PS - The above was my attempt to provide a pithy summary of the above-mentioned article. Anybody who disagrees with the views expressed in the article should address the author rather than shoot the messenger.
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