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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:19 pm

Jerry wrote:My British born Cypriot UK cousins are talking about getting a Cypriot passport, is a semi-Cypriot entitled to one too?

Tim, if you have a problem getting citizenship I have an old aunt in Cyprus who is looking for a husband. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You may need an uncle. :mrgreen:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:50 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Leave appears to have won the referendum.

What now lies in store for those British citizens like myself who are working and living in Cyprus on a yellow slip issued to members of other EU states? Nothing changes overnight, of course, since the UK has not yet started negotiations to leave the EU and our yellow slips will continue to be valid as long as the UK remains a member. Experts have said that the process of leaving may take up to two years, and that will give us some respite and the opportunity to make plans. I hoped it wouldn't come to this, but the lies and nonsense spoken in the run-up to the referendum about special arrangements and relationships supposedly existing between the UK and Cyprus that will mean that everything can carry on as before will now be exposed for the nonsense they were. There was no arrangement that gave working age British citizens the absolute right to live, work and run businesses in Cyprus before the island became an EU member, and I don't see why Cyprus should make any concessions to British citizens after the UK leaves the union. I hope events prove me wrong, but I doubt it. Most retired British citizens have sufficient guaranteed income from outside the Republic to obtain a residence permit, although they will probably have to get private health insurance, which is not cheap for people in that age group. The rest of us will have to start making alternative plans.


Hi Tim,

DO NOT PANIC

See Council Directive 2003/109/EC of 25 November 2003 concerning the status of third-country nationals who are long-term residents.
Persons who have acquired long-term resident status will enjoy equal treatment with nationals as regards:
access to paid and unpaid employment, conditions of employment and working conditions (working hours, health and safety standards, holiday entitlements, remuneration and dismissal);
education and vocational training, recognition of qualifications and study grants;
welfare benefits (family allowances, retirement pensions, etc.) and sickness insurance;
social assistance (minimum income support or retirement pensions, free health care, etc.);
social benefits, tax relief and access to goods and services;
freedom of association and union membership and freedom to represent a union or association;
free access to the entire territory of the EU country concerned.
In certain cases, EU countries may restrict equal treatment with nationals with respect to access to employment and to education (e.g. by requiring proof of appropriate language proficiency). In the field of social assistance and protection, EU countries may limit equal treatment to core benefits. They are nevertheless free to add to the list of benefits in which they grant equal treatment with nationals as well as to provide equal treatment in additional areas.
Long-term residents enjoy enhanced protection against expulsion. The conduct on which expulsion decisions are based must constitute an actual and sufficiently serious threat to public policy or public security. Such decisions may not be founded on economic considerations. EU countries undertake to consider specific factors before taking a decision to expel a long-term resident (age of the person concerned, duration of residence, etc.).
The provisions of the directive do not prevent EU countries from issuing permanent residence permits on terms that are more favourable than those set out in the directive. Nevertheless, such residence permits do not confer the right of residence in the other EU countries.


I am not panicking because there may be up to two years for us to make new plans. The regulation you refer to is for third country nationals who have acquired long-term resident status, but we are people - or at least I am - who have acquired permanent resident status on the basis of being EU nationals and having obtained a yellow slip granting residence status to EU nationals. As far as I can see, that status disappears the moment the UK ceases to be an EU member state. I do not think the above is relevant to our case. I could be wrong. We will have to see how things develop, but I think it is better to be prepared for the worst.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:47 pm

just say the word tim and i will get you the paperwork from the yero muhdaro and it will say you was born in cyprus. so dont worry.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby CBBB » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:45 pm

Lordo wrote:just say the word tim and i will get you the paperwork from the yero muhdaro and it will say you was born in cyprus. so dont worry.


That wouldn't help, I have children born here that aren't entitled to citizenship for that reason.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:Alternatively, our British friends can always invest a couple of mil in Cyprus to get an EU passport!

How the tide turns… :lol:


...if there was a like button i would have pushed it :)
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:34 pm

CBBB wrote:
Lordo wrote:just say the word tim and i will get you the paperwork from the yero muhdaro and it will say you was born in cyprus. so dont worry.


That wouldn't help, I have children born here that aren't entitled to citizenship for that reason.

thats because you are a bello englezzo and tim is not. them little moles in the home office know exactly who to give a passport to and who not to. especially when one knows mr yorgadjis as it were. :wink: :wink:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:38 am

if you move your british 'home' to SCOTLAND in the EU ,you can also keep your british (english) Passport
and still do the same as everyone EU person
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:48 am

Paul ZKTV wrote:if you move your british 'home' to SCOTLAND in the EU ,you can also keep your british (english) Passport
and still do the same as everyone EU person


I don't have a British 'home', mate. I have built a new life here in Cyprus. It is also unlikely that an independent Scotland will be allowed to succeed to the EU because Spain had made it abundantly clear that it will veto any such application.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:58 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:if you move your british 'home' to SCOTLAND in the EU ,you can also keep your british (english) Passport
and still do the same as everyone EU person


I don't have a British 'home', mate. I have built a new life here in Cyprus. It is also unlikely that an independent Scotland will be allowed to succeed to the EU because Spain had made it abundantly clear that it will veto any such application.

You’ll most likely be granted Cypriot citizenship having spent so many years here. I can’t imagine being given a hard time by the RoC just because of Britain’s exit. They’re not like that…
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:13 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:if you move your british 'home' to SCOTLAND in the EU ,you can also keep your british (english) Passport
and still do the same as everyone EU person


I don't have a British 'home', mate. I have built a new life here in Cyprus. It is also unlikely that an independent Scotland will be allowed to succeed to the EU because Spain had made it abundantly clear that it will veto any such application.

You’ll most likely be granted Cypriot citizenship having spent so many years here. I can’t imagine being given a hard time by the RoC just because of Britain’s exit. They’re not like that…


We'll see. I am contemplating making the application. On the other hand, my informant here on this site says that some people apply and hear nothing for decades.
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