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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:06 pm

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Paul ZKTV wrote:sorry but 90% of EU citizens have ID cards . and that is what thry use to get into the UK
passports cost a lot more and most dont use them

That's ridiculous. Are you telling us, Europeans only travel within EU? :lol:


Try getting into any European country from outside Europe, or visa-versa, on an ID card! Say Saudi, Egypt, Algeria, Iran, Israel, Morroco, India, Pakistan, Australia etc.etc. The States will reject your passport even, if it is not biometrics. Many countries also require you to first obtain an entry visa and they don't issue those on ID Cards. But you are still free to travel ...... but on their terms. :roll:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Paul ZKTV » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:23 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:sorry but 90% of EU citizens have ID cards . and that is what thry use to get into the UK
passports cost a lot more and most dont use them

That's ridiculous. Are you telling us, Europeans only travel within EU? :lol:


Try getting into any European country from outside Europe, or visa-versa, on an ID card! Say Saudi, Egypt, Algeria, Iran, Israel, Morroco, India, Pakistan, Australia etc.etc. The States will reject your passport even, if it is not biometrics. Many countries also require you to first obtain an entry visa and they don't issue those on ID Cards. But you are still free to travel ...... but on their terms. :roll:


500,000,000 people in the EEA .most of there travel is within that area
why would a spansh bus driver want to go to algeria - off to france or maybe germany
why would a german baker want to go to australia - summer on a spanish beach
why would a italian plumber want to go to iran -off to the alps for skiing

I DO NOT KNOW A SINGLE SPANISH PERSON WITH A PASSPORT
however by law every person over 14 has to have a ID card.

MY WIFE WHO IS GERMAN ONLY HAS AN ID CARD -

YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM THE NORTH POLE TO THE SAHARA DESERT WITHIN THE EEA
- but not the UK from 2019 ..

any CY person out there want to say if they got a passport or just an ID card ?
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:41 am

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500,000,000 people in the EEA .most of there travel is within that area
why would a spansh bus driver want to go to algeria - off to france or maybe germany
why would a german baker want to go to australia - summer on a spanish beach
why would a italian plumber want to go to iran -off to the alps for skiing.

Once again you move the goal posts! Internal to the EU an ID card is OK but to move around outside the EU you need a passport. Schengen countries will allow free travel internally but I think you would still need more than an ID card to get into them from outside. That was the argument.
YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM THE NORTH POLE TO THE SAHARA DESERT WITHIN THE EEA
- but not the UK from 2019.

Prove that statement! To reach the Sahara you need to cross Morocco, or Algeria, or Tunisia, or Libya, or Egypt ............ how do you do that on a Spanish ID card. Can you get from Ceuta into Morocco or visa-versa, on an ID Card..... I somehow think not.
any CY person out there want to say if they got a passport or just an ID card ?

If they want to travel outside the EU, they have no option. Many I know have them, but not all and those that don't have them don't travel outside of the EU. I have seen plenty of Cypriots at Larnaca carrying EU Passports. Maybe the Spanish (Majorcans) population doesn’t travel outside Europe as much as other EU Nationals. :roll:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby CBBB » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:00 am

Robin Hood wrote:Schengen countries will allow free travel internally but I think you would still need more than an ID card to get into them from outside. That was the argument.


Wrong, I can travel into the Schengen area just using my Cyprus ID card.

Robin Hood wrote:Prove that statement! To reach the Sahara you need to cross Morocco, or Algeria, or Tunisia, or Libya, or Egypt ............ how do you do that on a Spanish ID card. Can you get from Ceuta into Morocco or visa-versa, on an ID Card..... I somehow think not.


According to Wikipedia "The Sahara stretches from the Red Sea in the east and the Mediterranean in the north, to the Atlantic Ocean in the west", so the Spanish enclaves of Cueta and Melilla would cover that.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:16 am

EU nationals can enter Morocco with their ID cards:

http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2015/07 ... -id-cards/
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:28 am

The Moroccan Sahara. Wish you were here!

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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby CBBB » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:57 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The Moroccan Sahara. Wish you were here!

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I wouldn't want to be there, it looks like a bloody long camel ride to the nearest pub!
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Paul ZKTV » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:38 am

YOU CAN USE A EEA/EU ID CARD issued by law and carried by anyover 14 - TO GO ANYWHERE IN THE EEA
YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM THE NORTH POLE TO THE SOUTH POLE
AND TO SOUTH AMERICA and the PACIFIC
but from 2019 not to DOVER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... nomic_Area

so everyone agree that the fact that and ill up the number to inc those outside the EEA that allow ID card only

to about 600,000,000
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:56 am

CBBB:
Wrong, I can travel into the Schengen area just using my Cyprus ID card.


Not from outside the EU you can’t, which is what I said.
........ so the Spanish enclaves of Cueta and Melilla would cover that.


You would not be able to enter or leave either on an EU ID unless you were travelling to or from an EU country.
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:00 am

Paul ZKTV wrote:YOU CAN USE A EEA/EU ID CARD issued by law and carried by anyover 14 - TO GO ANYWHERE IN THE EEA
YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM THE NORTH POLE TO THE SOUTH POLE
AND TO SOUTH AMERICA and the PACIFIC
but from 2019 not to DOVER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... nomic_Area

so everyone agree that the fact that and ill up the number to inc those outside the EEA that allow ID card only

to about 600,000,000


Rubbish ..... read it again EU to EU no problem ...... to or from a country outside the EU you need a passport!
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