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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:15 am

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PLEASE READ WHAT IS WRITTEN - IF the UK LEAVES THE EEA then all those citizens will NEED A FULL PASSPORT TO VISIT THE UK ,not just the ID CARD THEY HAVE NOW


I cant believe anyone could be so thick ................ THAT WILL BE A DECISION FOR THE UK TO MAKE. As it stands at the moment you only need an ID card. Apart from at the airport or maybe as identity in the bank, when would you ever need an ID in the UK .... it is not a Police State .... we don't have ID cards.

Unlike many of the sentiments expressed by those anti-Brexit, pro everything EU posters on here and demonstrating against democracy on the streets of London, the Brits do not act like petulant little children and spit their dummy because they cant get their own way. Yes, the UK has been a pain in the butt for the EU Commission for decades because we spotted years ago the way Europe was heading and tried to get them to do a bit of rethinking. They didn't, they just carried on with ever greater integration toward a Federal European State. (Pied Piper of Hamlin anybody?)

So Britain says "Look, we will still be your friend and carry on as friends do but sorry we don't want to be part of your Federal Europe so, if it's OK with you we will back off on the Federal bit ..... but there is no reason we cannot all go on benefitting from that which is good and carry on as just friends ....... WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF YOUR FEDERAL STATE OF EUROPE!"

The Establishment never for one minute thought Brexit would happen ...... but it did, and it has rocked them to the core. Effectively, the EU Commissioners have declared economic war on the UK in retaliation for daring to question their authority. Not a cleaver thing to do as NOW the discontent is spreading, the very foundations of the EU are crumbling and more people in the union are expressing their discontent with the arrogant and self serving 'management'. They want change too but the 'management' are still not listening.

So many posts on here are obviously anti-British, in some ways understandable as we were once the Imperialist masters, but to applaud and rejoice at Britain's current temporary difficulties just shows that people like that are not friends at all. What the EU is trying to do to the UK economy is spiteful revenge for deciding to do what the people want, not the Establishment.

My advise to those people ...... it's your turn next!!!! :shock: :?

If you want to see what bowing down the wishes of the EU bureaucrats does to your country ...... take a very good look at Greece! A proud country and a proudpeople left an impoverished nation because when given the chance to make changes, with the mandate of the people, they chickened out. The people's demonstration of democracy was ignored by their government and the people paid the price. Be careful what you wish for. :roll:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:55 am

Robin Hood wrote:PaulZKTV:
PLEASE READ WHAT IS WRITTEN - IF the UK LEAVES THE EEA then all those citizens will NEED A FULL PASSPORT TO VISIT THE UK ,not just the ID CARD THEY HAVE NOW

I cant believe anyone could be so thick ................ THAT WILL BE A DECISION FOR THE UK TO MAKE. As it stands at the moment you only need an ID card. Apart from at the airport or maybe as identity in the bank, when would you ever need an ID in the UK .... it is not a Police State .... we don't have ID cards.


PLEASE FOLLOW ME - im spanish and now i travel to the UK with my card i carry 24/7 since i was 14 in my wallet ...and then i return home ...
IN THE FUTURE
im spanish to LEAVE THE EEA I NEED A FULL PASSPORT - I NEED TO LEAVE I NEED TO GO TO A EEA AIRPORT WHERE THE INTERATIONAL RULES (not EU ) ARE CLEAR
I NEED TO SHOW A FULL PASSPORT - whats that got to do with the UK ...its not up to the goverment of buthan what happens at MADRID airport - its THE UN RULES GOING BACK TO 1948 - no one is saying they will need a VISA to go to the UK from EEA ...BUT YOU WILL NEED A PASSPORT - a EEA ID CARD IS NOT VALID FOR INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL

Also not having a ID CARD system in the UK means that the scum of the world can wander round and claim money coz you havent a clue who they are ??
in SPAIN they found that ´black african´ were using the same ID card to walk around as ´´they all looked the same ´´ to a spanish policeman. it was only when they got a
´black´ policeman did this come to light - anyway i dont live in the UK and never will - not been there for 5 years - but feel sorry for the OAP who has paid to live in the Sun ..
HERE IS THE LAW THAT YOU SAY ALLOWS YOU TO STAY IN CY
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication ... nglish.pdf

Im happy for anyone to read it and find the part that applies to UK OAPs ....
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:05 pm

PaulZKTV
PLEASE FOLLOW ME - im spanish and now i travel to the UK with my card i carry 24/7 since i was 14 in my wallet ...and then i return home ...
IN THE FUTURE
im spanish to LEAVE THE EEA I NEED A FULL PASSPORT - I NEED TO LEAVE I NEED TO GO TO A EEA AIRPORT WHERE THE INTERATIONAL RULES (not EU ) ARE CLEAR
I NEED TO SHOW A FULL PASSPORT - whats that got to do with the UK ...its not up to the goverment of buthan what happens at MADRID airport - its THE UN RULES GOING BACK TO 1948 - no one is saying they will need a VISA to go to the UK from EEA ...BUT YOU WILL NEED A PASSPORT - a EEA ID CARD IS NOT VALID FOR INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL


This is what I have been trying to get through to you ...... if you move outside the EU (EEA) then you need a passport .... according to you, you can travel from the North Pole to the Sahara on one! Which is incorrect.

I have never had an ID card in the UK or needed one to travel in European countries. I have never been asked for one. Even in Iran/Algeria I could move around on simply my gate pass to the site ....... the company held on to the passport. In Saudi I was given an ‘Iqama’ an ID book, but I could not use it to leave Saudi. If you are prevented by international law from travelling on your ID card, that is your problem not one caused by the UK. We don’t have a problem accepting your ID card now, nor I suspect will we in the future unless the EU decides to make it difficult for Europeans to travel on an ID card.

What will happen with your EU driving licence? Will the same international law force you to obtain a full international driving license when driving outside the EU/EEA. Will the EU ban all UK registered vehicles or vehicles that are RH drive? Will UK qualifications still be valid in the EU and visa-versa.

It is all ‘if’s, but’s and maybe’s’’ ! You , me, nobody knows anything with any certainty because all the 700 EU civil servants that have been dedicated to this for 60 years don’t have a clue what it all means. It has never happened before. It comes down to common sense ........... why create problems when there is no need for them?

Now Sturgeon jumps on the band wagon ...... ‘What will happen to the 172,000 EU nationals living and working in Scotland?’ What needs to change? Answer .......NOTHING ..... unless you get lawyers, politicians and bureaucrats involved. That could mean all Scots in England would need Scottish Passports, work permits, maybe even a visa if they vote to be independent. It will take them 10 years to become a member of the EU even then ..... and Spain will veto their application anyway.

NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE ........ had they been known one of the ‘experts’ would have pointed them out during the Brexit campaign. They didn’t because they didn’t know any more than you or I do. It’s all guesswork/hype/propaganda and scare mongering! :roll:
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:54 pm

PLEASE PLEASE READ WHAT I WRITE
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 600,000,000 people in the EEA that want to go on HOLIDAY
THEY CAN TRAVEL from the North Pole to the Sahara on one! BECAUSE ITS INSIDE THE EEA
and today can VISIT LONDON - from 2020
THESE PEOPLE WILL NEED A FULL INTERNATONAL PASSPORT to visit the UK
its got nothing to do with what you can do - you have a full internatonal passport THEY DO NOT

The 574 EU civil servants that have been dedicated to this for 60 years THATS WHAT THEY DO - THEM ON ONE SIDE
A COUNTRY OUTSIDE THE EEA ON THE OTHER -

Now Sturgeon jumps on the band wagon ...... ‘What will happen to the 172,000 EU nationals living and working in Scotland?’ What needs to change? Answer .......NOTHING ....
They will require WORK PERMITS and RESIDENCE PAPERS ,the same as you will and it will be up to that country what the rules are -

your not alone i get this on a lot of websites . THE MATCH FOR EUROPE yesterday has people poping up all over the
place saying nothing is going to happen ,its all guesswork/hype/propaganda and scare mongering! - i just think they relize they gone and shot themselves and wont admit it ...
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Re: What now for British citizens living and working in Cypr

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:59 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:PLEASE PLEASE READ WHAT I WRITE
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 600,000,000 people in the EEA that want to go on HOLIDAY
THEY CAN TRAVEL from the North Pole to the Sahara on one! BECAUSE ITS INSIDE THE EEA
and today can VISIT LONDON - from 2020
THESE PEOPLE WILL NEED A FULL INTERNATONAL PASSPORT to visit the UK
its got nothing to do with what you can do - you have a full internatonal passport THEY DO NOT

The 574 EU civil servants that have been dedicated to this for 60 years THATS WHAT THEY DO - THEM ON ONE SIDE
A COUNTRY OUTSIDE THE EEA ON THE OTHER -

Now Sturgeon jumps on the band wagon ...... ‘What will happen to the 172,000 EU nationals living and working in Scotland?’ What needs to change? Answer .......NOTHING ....
They will require WORK PERMITS and RESIDENCE PAPERS ,the same as you will and it will be up to that country what the rules are -

your not alone i get this on a lot of websites . THE MATCH FOR EUROPE yesterday has people poping up all over the
place saying nothing is going to happen ,its all guesswork/hype/propaganda and scare mongering! - i just think they relize they gone and shot themselves and wont admit it ...


You think but you don't know. It is your opinion .... I just happen to disagree with it.

Would you have been so keen to 'remain' if they had used Greece as an example of the benefits associated with remaining a member of the EU ? Greece missed the opportunity and it has been destroyed completely by those who said they would help them .... the IMF/ECB/EU. What happened in Cyprus was similar but so far they have managed to persuade the people that the country is well on the road to recovery. A drive through Limassol tells a completely different story to the official line.

...... and it all comes down to how the monetary system works. :roll: :wink:
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