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by **MrH** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:32 pm

Postby B25 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:49 am

MrH wrote:
so the SBA areas are illegal then? It's hillarious some of the rubbish in this forum, that's why the TRNC employs people like me in order to confirm how and use the quotes from here to present to the MGK that any compromise with the Greek Cypriots is futile.

Let's just say that we agree to forever disagree!

Obviously every Greek Cypriot dismissing the existence and historical reasoning for the TRNC, and whom believes that the Cyprus problem started in 1974 and NOT 1955.

As for the EU, here it is in plain and simple English. ONLY the Greek Cypriot administered side is part of the EU and Turkey doesn't give a damn about it, nor the EU, where any solution to the Cyprus problem is either one that allows the existence of Two autonomous and self governing states based on equality, or it'll remain like how it is for another 100 years until the population of the North is completely replaced with people from Turkey, or Turkey will annex it.......which would see a Turkish population flooding the TRNC of 2million plus!

It's important for the Greek Cypriots to understand that Turkey truly doesn't care about Mustafa Akinci and his liberal policies, nor of the current Federal based initiative as she knows it'll never materialise.

Thus, Turkey will eventually assimilate the TRNC very soon. Watch this space as a referendum for this will happen.

Thank you very much for the above quotes and the true intentions of the Turkish side. This will work wonders when I send it to our negotiating team and various members of the UN and EU responsible people. As for Turkey not wanting the EU, tell that to Erdocunt that is constantly pushing to open other chapters. You are so full of shit you have shown your true intentions.

B25, please do send it to the Negotiating team as the Turkish Cypriot negotiating team are only playing with you! We all know the current UN Talks in search of perhaps the 20th Federal rubbish plan is all bogus. The True solution is a Velvet Divorce, two Republic states, otherwise Turkey will annex! As for the UK, seriously, we here don't give a damn what happens in Cyprus as long as you Greek Cypriot do not dare to touch our Soverign, NONE, EU areas! Which you couldn't even in your wildest dreams!

by **Get Real!** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:39 pm

MrH wrote:Get Real, are you serious bro - 1571!

So you will be telling me that the United States of America doesn't really exist too!

Isn’t 1571 when the FIRST Ottoman invasion/occupation occurred?

Well for the locals that’s EXACTLY when the Cyprus problem begun and who better to decide on the matter if not the native victims of the island?

Do you honestly think that *YOU* can decide for them on this matter?

All you can do is point to the year that got uncomfortable for *YOUR* community of uninvited Turks, but it certainly wouldn’t be the same year that the natives would point out as being the START of the Cyprus problem.

The “PROBLEM” in case you’re wondering, being YOUR invasions/occupations of THEIR island and certainly not what you have in mind.

I hope that common sense opens up your closed mind.

by **Get Real!** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:59 pm

Here are the NATIVE CYPRIOT answers to the most important misconceptions you probably have:

Q. What is the Cyprus problem?

A. The Turkish/Ottoman uninvited presence on the island.

Q. When did the Cyprus problem begin?

A. The very first day the uninvited Turks/Ottomans arrived here in 1571.

Q. How can the Cyprus problem be solved?

A. With the liberation of all enslaved Cypriot territory.

Q. Should Cyprus be negotiating with Turks/Ottomans?

A. Only to determine the method and speed of their departure from the island.

by **Get Real!** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:38 pm

MrH wrote:Thus, Turkey will eventually assimilate the TRNC very soon. Watch this space as a referendum for this will happen.

Btw, we don’t care about your relationship with Turkey.

Whether you want to call the 37% of illegally occupied Cypriot territory as a “annexation to Turkey”, “amalgamation with Turkey” or “celebration of Turkey” is IRRELEVANT to us because to us it remains the illegally occupied Cypriot territory that is pending liberation.

You live in your temporary Ottoman fantasies while we are steadfast in our rights.

by **DT.** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:15 pm

Don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to like this little guy mrh. It's obvious that English isn't his first language but he gets an A for effort. And for a guy that hasn't finished high school (his words) he does a great job of hiding what are obviously large knowledge gaps....not completely but he tries.

So mrh, well done for having the balls to (attempt to)stand toe to toe with what is obviously a higher educated crowd than yourself.

by **repulsewarrior** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:24 pm

...in any case MrH, Cypriots exist, and Cyprus exists.

You claim to be speaking for Cypriots of Turkish origin, but you are not; rather than being Turkish, you are a "Turk" (and may i add no better than the "Greeks" who are like you, feeding on the fear "you" thrive on).

...you/"you" are in Cyprus a minority, like it or not. Although your beloved "North" is "pure" to date, how long can that last once the isolation that has been imposed on you (by Turkey) is lifted; do you think that "you" can ignore your own minorities, open to the world, and a cross-road for three Continents?

Read your own so called Constitution, i have; not a word about minorities, (and no history either,) not a word about any distinctions or qualities of the people which makes up this electorate, it has no consideration for this possibility, that some of "you" are different as Individuals, that as Persons there are distinctions that can be made, you are "Turkish" and if not (or not "enough") there exists no recognition or respect for your own special needs, in essence, that as a People "you" are nothing because "you" are a "Turkishness" predefined by a "motherland's" dogma; monoclonal to say the least.

...if you care about your precious "TRNC", than i would suggest that you consider how much of your zeal is based on the same xenophobic, and ignorant behaviour of those who led the "Leave" campaign. Where are "they" now?

Cyprus is not your enemy, only a "Turk" (much like the "Greeks") believe that. Believing that things will remain the same, either way, is as much of a pipe dream. New thinking is needed, respect for the Individual, for one thing.

...i'm not sure what you are looking for, MrH, but i can see that your sense of entitlement leaves you quite alone, except of course for the so called friend "you" have, in Turkey. As I said, you are not Cypriot.

With the failure of the Annan Plan, it is pretty clear, over fifty years of Turkish Foreign Policy has failed. Cyprus does not "belong" to the "Greeks" and/or the "Turks", MrH. And Cypriots (still) exist, the other half as i like to call them.

by **Flying Horse** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:26 pm

MrH wrote:As for the EU, here it is in plain and simple English. ONLY the Greek Cypriot administered side is part of the EU and Turkey doesn't give a damn about it, nor the EU, where any solution to the Cyprus problem is either one that allows the existence of Two autonomous and self governing states based on equality, or it'll remain like how it is for another 100 years until the population of the North is completely replaced with people from Turkey, or Turkey will annex it.......which would see a Turkish population flooding the TRNC of 2million plus!

Actually, the whole of Cyprus was accepted into the EU when it joined, with special reference and exclusion of the occupied areas until such time there is remedy to the illegal occupational role in those areas.

by **repulsewarrior** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:47 pm

Flying Horse wrote:
MrH wrote:As for the EU, here it is in plain and simple English. ONLY the Greek Cypriot administered side is part of the EU and Turkey doesn't give a damn about it, nor the EU, where any solution to the Cyprus problem is either one that allows the existence of Two autonomous and self governing states based on equality, or it'll remain like how it is for another 100 years until the population of the North is completely replaced with people from Turkey, or Turkey will annex it.......which would see a Turkish population flooding the TRNC of 2million plus!

Actually, the whole of Cyprus was accepted into the EU when it joined, with special reference and exclusion of the occupied areas until such time there is remedy to the illegal occupational role in those areas.

yiasou, Ms. Horse.