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Postby Paul ZKTV » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:46 am

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Paul ZKTV wrote:Not if SCOTLAND joins NI and IRISH REBPUBLIC in a CELTIC FEDERATION - there is nothing in the EU rules that says a country cant add to itself ..


Sturgeon's already hawked it around Brussels. Those that actually matter have told her it isn't going to happen. They all leave - or stay - with the U.K.


sad the the STATE OF THE UK ,and its that not a country ,has to make threats to keep people within it ...

august-december the USSR fell apart - anything can happen ...
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:09 pm

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Paul ZKTV wrote:Not if SCOTLAND joins NI and IRISH REBPUBLIC in a CELTIC FEDERATION - there is nothing in the EU rules that says a country cant add to itself ..


Sturgeon's already hawked it around Brussels. Those that actually matter have told her it isn't going to happen. They all leave - or stay - with the U.K.


sad the the STATE OF THE UK ,and its that not a country ,has to make threats to keep people within it ...

august-december the USSR fell apart - anything can happen ...


I don't understand what you mean by threats.

Sturgeon went to Brussels to make the case for a post independence Scotland being allowed to simply remain in the EU (probably retaining the £. The SNP are the World's leading experts on having your cake and eating it). She was told in no uncertain terms that wasn't going to happen. They will have to apply for membership in the same way as any country. Specifically they would be required to adopt the € and their economy would be vetted by Brussels. I can understand that easily enough. The EU are in no hurry, or position even, to pick up Scotland's significant tab, currently covered by the English taxpayer (specifically - London). Scotland would need to get its economic house in order. If you have a look at their State spending it doesn't take a Sherlock to appreciate that's gonna hurt - badly. Merkel will not entertain the prospect of a Celtic Greece on her hands. Either way that process is likely to take upwards of 5 years.

Once again it will be a case I suspect that when they get over the Braveheart appeals and start using their Braveheads instead they are unlikely to fall for it. They want to be free of government from a remote and uncaring city to then become ...............?

Frankly, I think that would be a great pity. As before, I'm sick to death of a rump of Scottish MPs deciding England-specific policies, whilst sometimes implementing the complete opposite north of the border. The West Lothian question hasn't gone away you know.
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:08 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:Not if SCOTLAND joins NI and IRISH REBPUBLIC in a CELTIC FEDERATION - there is nothing in the EU rules that says a country cant add to itself ..


Sturgeon's already hawked it around Brussels. Those that actually matter have told her it isn't going to happen. They all leave - or stay - with the U.K.


sad the the STATE OF THE UK ,and its that not a country ,has to make threats to keep people within it ...

august-december the USSR fell apart - anything can happen ...


I don't understand what you mean by threats.

Sturgeon went to Brussels to make the case for a post independence Scotland being allowed to simply remain in the EU (probably retaining the £. The SNP are the World's leading experts on having your cake and eating it). She was told in no uncertain terms that wasn't going to happen. They will have to apply for membership in the same way as any country. Specifically they would be required to adopt the € and their economy would be vetted by Brussels. I can understand that easily enough. The EU are in no hurry, or position even, to pick up Scotland's significant tab, currently covered by the English taxpayer (specifically - London). Scotland would need to get its economic house in order. If you have a look at their State spending it doesn't take a Sherlock to appreciate that's gonna hurt - badly. Merkel will not entertain the prospect of a Celtic Greece on her hands. Either way that process is likely to take upwards of 5 years.

Once again it will be a case I suspect that when they get over the Braveheart appeals and start using their Braveheads instead they are unlikely to fall for it. They want to be free of government from a remote and uncaring city to then become ...............?

Frankly, I think that would be a great pity. As before, I'm sick to death of a rump of Scottish MPs deciding England-specific policies, whilst sometimes implementing the complete opposite north of the border. The West Lothian question hasn't gone away you know.


you sound like some hanoverian Redcoat talking down to the natives .. Greece Dont have any oil - scotland do about 3/4 of the UK output - Germania will pay the tab to get Scotland on board to secure its oil reserves - The City of BERLIN has twice the GDP of all of Scotland - The CELTIC FEDERATION is that SCOTLAND would join IRELAND in a single federation ..no need to join ,just transfer the papers over - Ive no idea why the OUTERS seem to think there is no money in EUROPA - the ECB bank ALONE has larger gold reserves then the UK and germany has ten times that ..
What you think rump UK is going to do without scottish oil and thr city of LONDON - who is going to pay for those 1,000,000 OAPs walking home from EUROPA ??
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:40 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:you sound like some hanoverian Redcoat talking down to the natives .. Greece Dont have any oil - scotland do about 3/4 of the UK output - Germania will pay the tab to get Scotland on board to secure its oil reserves - The City of BERLIN has twice the GDP of all of Scotland - The CELTIC FEDERATION is that SCOTLAND would join IRELAND in a single federation ..no need to join ,just transfer the papers over - Ive no idea why the OUTERS seem to think there is no money in EUROPA - the ECB bank ALONE has larger gold reserves then the UK and germany has ten times that ..
What you think rump UK is going to do without scottish oil and thr city of LONDON - who is going to pay for those 1,000,000 OAPs walking home from EUROPA ??


Sorry Paul but when it comes to Scotland you don't seem to have much of a grasp of the facts.

Oil is in the doldrums and set to stay there for the foreseeable future. Over 150,000 oil-related jobs have gone in Scotland over the past 18 months. Investment has dried up because It simply isn't viable to extract at prices below the minimum of $50pb.

Germany's (Germania? :? ) oil consumption currently runs at about 2.5 million bpd, whilst Scotland's output has now declined considerably to a total of less than 1M bpd. 60% of the reserves have been extracted and what remains will become increasingly expensive to bring to the surface. This in a world now containing the likes of fracking.

Decommissioning costs and other such outlays have seen the oil industry reduced this year to the point where they've actually run at a loss to the taxpayer. Surely you will have followed all the in-depth analysis that surfaced during the last referendum campaign? The SNP's claims for oil were revealed as an absurd overestimate and that preceded the big crash.

It's difficult to follow some of your posts as you seem to be pulling all sorts of things out of the air. Some of it is clearly nonsensical.

Furthermore I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to adopt an aggressive and upon occasions almost hysterical tone. Do you always feel the need to be gratuitously offensive simply because someone, or a group of people, do not subscribe to your particular view?

I have to tell you that it comes across as "stamp your little feet" childish in the extreme.

If you tried being more polite and factual perhaps people might actually pay some attention to what you're posting.
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:33 pm

Londonrake wrote:Sorry Paul but when it comes to Scotland you don't seem to have much of a grasp of the facts.


Your cant look short term - germans dont they look at the fact that RUSSIA needs to be pushed away and by securing oil with
a small friendly country ,which is less then the state of BAVARIA ,gives them long term secuity within germania

i must say again ,you come across as aloof and removed from real- politk of the furture needs of EUROPA
and look at things from a very narrow time frame and a quick profit - a very english point of view

i have no idea when the oil is no longer on the books of what left of the UK ,and the CITY of LONDON walks away
what anyone is going to do for work or income ....
it will be that last chapter in ´The Rise and Fall of the British Empire´

I for one am glad that i have no assets in the UK to ave to worry about this very dim future ..
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:04 am

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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Paul ZKTV » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:33 am

you think two world wars against germans you would have learnt something about them
the ECB has 500 billons in gold reserves
and germany alone has 3,000 billion

the uk has 300

it will think that a ´debt´´ of 143
to secure for germania a oil reserve of between 120-1,500 billion
is a gift that they could only have dreamed of before the UK imploded

most of the brits here want to move their UK passports to scotland
so they can still move around europa - its cheaper to buy a council flat in
glasgow them to pay malta .
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:42 am

Paul ZKTV wrote:you think two world wars against germans you would have learnt something about them
the ECB has 500 billons in gold reserves
and germany alone has 3,000 billion

the uk has 300

it will think that a ´debt´´ of 143
to secure for germania a oil reserve of between 120-1,500 billion
is a gift that they could only have dreamed of before the UK imploded

most of the brits here want to move their UK passports to scotland
so they can still move around europa - its cheaper to buy a council flat in
glasgow them to pay malta .


I worked out most of it that time Paul! :D

As with all of this - time will tell. If posturing and threatening make you feel better about it all then posture/threaten away. :wink:
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Paul ZKTV » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:04 am

Londonrake wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:you think two world wars against germans you would have learnt something about them
the ECB has 500 billons in gold reserves
and germany alone has 3,000 billion

the uk has 300

it will think that a ´debt´´ of 143
to secure for germania a oil reserve of between 120-1,500 billion
is a gift that they could only have dreamed of before the UK imploded

most of the brits here want to move their UK passports to scotland
so they can still move around europa - its cheaper to buy a council flat in
glasgow them to pay malta .


I worked out most of it that time Paul! :D

As with all of this - time will tell. If posturing and threatening make you feel better about it all then posture/threaten away. :wink:


smugg alert - its your money not mine -

if you are right - i look daft
if i am right - you have a worse life

anyway im just going ahead with buying more property - new three flat in spain €40,000 - now less with the euro down against my dollars ...
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Re: ALL SCOTTISH PARTIES SAY YES TO VOTE

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:55 am

The "implosion" continues:

"Germany's Siemens embraces 'Project Optimism' in Brexit U-turn

Europe’s largest industrial combine has vowed to press ahead with investment in Britain despite the vote to leave the EU, backing away deftly from earlier suggestions that Brexit would cause a painful freeze on new activities."


Funny ole thing. That, in the cold light of day, German industry doesn't actually agree with Junker's hysterical threats (rumour has it that his personal best before date is to be acted upon).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... it-u-turn/

"London close: Real estate stocks jump as political uncertainty recedes"

http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/market-repor ... ty-recedes

I wouldn't normally post this sort of stuff. It's just the day-to-day ebb and flow, which could be the opposite tomorrow. However, it seems that every hourly scrap of bad news is eagerly pounced upon by Remainers and posted so - what the hell. :wink:
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