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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:47 pm

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Maximus wrote:No traitors here Paul.

Smart people can see through it and know there is no Russian threat or agrresive actions and there is nothing to fight Russia about. Sheeple will be lead to their doom and unfortuantely, the consequences will be far reaching.

The aggressive actions are coming from the Americans and Nato.


Well what do you can british people who dont stand behind their troops in the front line ???
seems to me that a lot of light has been shone in dark corners where people hid from the world ..


Not wanting to send your troops to fight a war based on propoganda and America's interests, does not make you a traitor.

The traitors in Europe are those serving America's interests and are willing to send other peoples children and troops to die on the frontline.
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Maximus » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:32 am

Have the Americans left ISIS for Putin to deal with now that they have completely destroyed Syria? Now, they divert our attention towards the so called Russian aggression after commiting a coup in Ukraine and moving missiles to Russia's borders. No sooner do they start one conflict they move on to start the next.

They funded and supported rebels (likely and probably ISIS) and dystabalized Syria and many country's before. Now that they are being discovered for the war mongerring terrorists that they are, they create another distraction and continue to demonize Russia and Putin. More ordinary people around the world are waking up to how America operates though. There are too many instances and now Tony Blair, Bush's tool, is being proven to be the war criminal he was when they illegally invaded Iraq. This cost the lives of many innocent Iraqi's and British serviceman.

The US and the UK, are probably on the verge of a major economic collapse and would sooner start a world war and tip the chess board than play by the rules they expect the international community to abide by. Than allow others to overtake them. Then they will blame it all on someone else.

The war mongers in washington dont give a about Europe. Europe, the American vassel, is being invaded by islamic economic migrants and our corrupted politicians are being negligent. They are causing divisions amongst the citizens and are puting millions of lives at risk with adventures in Ukraine and entrust Erdogan to look after Europes eastern borders while he continues to occupy a member state, Cyprus. They have mush for brains or are on America's payroll. There is a lack of sense of reality in the west, the people in the west and much of Europe are very ill informed. We live in the age of deception, within a politically correct idiocracy. Just a quick cursory glance of the BBC's website and there is nothing about the recent NATO summit in Warsaw. Just some info about African skirmishes and Jane smith's cooking recipe's get more air time than the impending danger our politicians are creating.

Some people need to wake up.
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:45 pm

if your british and you dont support british troops and side with the people who want to kill young men from england ,then you should give back your passport and get a russian one along with a medal from putin ...maybe robin hood can get free medical from them ,,,
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:10 pm

Maximus:
Have the Americans left ISIS for Putin to deal with now that they have completely destroyed Syria? Now, they divert our attention towards the so called Russian aggression after committing a coup in Ukraine and moving missiles to Russia's borders. No sooner do they start one conflict they move on to start the next.
They funded and supported rebels (likely and probably ISIS) and destabilized Syria and many country's before. Now that they are being discovered for the war mongering terrorists that they are, they create another distraction and continue to demonize Russia and Putin. More ordinary people around the world are waking up to how America operates though. There are too many instances and now Tony Blair, Bush's tool, is being proven to be the war criminal he was when they illegally invaded Iraq. This cost the lives of many innocent Iraqi's and British serviceman.
The US/NATO/Israeli objective has not changed ....... regime change .....’Assad must go!’ After the release of the Chillcott report you would think people in The West would wake up to the fact that their Government’s DO lie to them and frequently. Chillcott shows that even when there is a case for prosecution the Establishment take no action against their own. Exactly the same with the big banks! If someone cheats the State out of a few thousand in benefits, they are tried and go to jail. The bankers rarely go to trial. The bank pays a few billion as a fine ...... and then carry on as usual.
The US and the UK, are probably on the verge of a major economic collapse and would sooner start a world war and tip the chess board than play by the rules they expect the international community to abide by. Than allow others to overtake them. Then they will blame it all on someone else.

I think you are right .... but Obama has declared The USA ‘The exceptional people, the indispensable people .....’ meaning ‘We’ are above the Law.

The Western World is on the edge of a collapse not only economic but a moral collapse. It is building in the US with the BLM protests. The picture of a woman in a flimsy dress facing three or four police officers dressed more like special forces in combat, armed to the teeth ..... says a lot about the way society is moving. The lady was arrested, handcuffed and held in custody for seven hours. I have no idea what her ‘crime’ was, maybe she looked at them disrespectfully but whatever the reason, do their police really need to be a military force? Europe and the UK are following this trend.
The war mongers in Washington don’t give a about Europe. Europe, the American vassal, is being invaded by Islamic economic migrants and our corrupted politicians are being negligent. They are causing divisions amongst the citizens and are putting millions of lives at risk with adventures in Ukraine and entrust Erdogan to look after Europe’s eastern borders while he continues to occupy a member state, Cyprus. They have mush for brains or are on America's payroll
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Present an alternative to the ‘official’ view or express a view that says things are not what they seem and you will immediately be tagged a ‘conspiracy theorist’, it is the standard response. Those being led by the nose to what could turn out to be a Nuclear confrontation, believe only what they perceive to be the truth. They never question THEIR source but are very quick to demand that others should do so and require you provide proof.. When you provide it they will question that source, and/or the author or switch to ridicule and start accusations ..... as we have seen in this thread.

But ..... didn’t you know ..... it’s all Russian Propaganda personally directed by the Kremlin, to lull the west into a false sense of security, whilst they plan war! :roll: :lol: :lol: As Putin said “We know what the Americans are doing, the Americans know we know what they are doing ...... but you journalists, who should be telling the people the truth, tell them what you are told to tell them!

The situation US/NATO are driving toward with a military build up on Russia’s borders, based on a deception, instead of taking the hand Putin has offered many times ........ could lead to annihilation of most of the human race in less than an hour. One itchy finger, one misunderstanding, one misconception and all hell breaks loose. Nobody wins and Europe will be among the first casualties and in the first few minutes.
Some people need to wake up.

Many are ..... some never will! Those that have slept their life away to date and have never questioned ..... will remain ignorant. There will be no equivalent of a Chillcott Enquiry next time! :cry: :cry:
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:37 pm

Warsaw Summit: Western Leaders Ignore Reality - The Saker

The real purpose of the summit was to force each western political leader to chose between reality and ideology. And they all made the correct choice, of course. They categorically rejected reality and enthusiastically embraced ideology.

This is why Russia was accused of not complying with an agreement she is not even a part to.

This is why Russia was accused of “aggression” against Georgia even though even the EU concluded that Georgia had started the war

This is why a non-existing Russian threat was denounced

This is why the Russian armed forces were declared deterred by a few NATO battalions

This is why the Russian invasion of the Donbass was denounced

This is why the 100% legal referendum in Crimea was completely ignored

The unanimous determination of all the western leaders to ignore reality and to firmly and publicly hold on and proclaim ideological nonsense as truthful was, in reality, the expected goal of the summit.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45080.htm
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:11 pm

Vladimir Putin Is The Only Leader The West Has - Paul Craig Roberts

A Reuters news report under the names of presstitutes Robin Emmott and Sabine Siebold shows how devoid the West is of honest, intelligent and responsible journalists and government officials.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nato-summit-idUKKCN0ZN2NN

First we will examine the dishonesty or incompetence of the reporters and then that of Western government officials.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/11/paul-craig-roberts-vladimir-putin-is-the-only-leader-the-west-has-if-we-do-not-support-him-washington-will-destroy-life-on-earth/
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:34 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Vladimir Putin Is The Only Leader The West Has - Paul Craig Roberts

A Reuters news report under the names of presstitutes Robin Emmott and Sabine Siebold shows how devoid the West is of honest, intelligent and responsible journalists and government officials.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nato-summit-idUKKCN0ZN2NN

First we will examine the dishonesty or incompetence of the reporters and then that of Western government officials.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/11/paul-craig-roberts-vladimir-putin-is-the-only-leader-the-west-has-if-we-do-not-support-him-washington-will-destroy-life-on-earth/


REUTERS REPORT
NATO leaders agreed on Friday to deploy military forces to the Baltic states and eastern Poland for the first time and increase air and sea patrols to reassure allies who were once part of the Soviet bloc following Russia's seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.

The 28-nation Western defence alliance decided to move four battalions totalling 3,000 to 4,000 troops into northeastern Europe on a rotating basis to display its readiness to defend eastern members against any Russian aggression.
However, they also underlined their willingness to pursue a dialogue with Moscow and revive confidence-building measures that Russia has spurned since its 2014 annexation of Crimea and support for Russian-speaking rebels in eastern Ukraine.
"These battalions will be robust and they will be multinational. They make clear that an attack on one ally will be considered an attack on the whole alliance," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told a news conference after the summit's first working session in Warsaw, the Polish capital.




Paul Craig Roberts REPORT
Some readers have asked for my take on the Orlando Shooting.
Let’s start with the basic first question. Before there can be a murder declared, there must be a body. Has anyone seen on TV or in newspapers pictures of dead bodies? Bodies should be readily available if the reports are correct that fifty people were killed and 50 or more were wounded and in hospital.
There was no blood and it looked like a crisis acting performance
So has anyone seen any dead bodies? Any body bags? Any wounded taken to hospitals in ambulances? Any of the hospital wounded interviewed by TV reporters? Has any reporter checked with the morgue?
No dead bodies materialized from the Paris attacks except those of the alleged perpetrators. No dead bodies ever emerged from the Sandy Hook shootings. The only dead bodies


well done - you must have been born with a looney detector - or maybe its like the X-MAN except that they have something xtra not like your m8s something missing mayb a good name is the W-MEN
WHAT A NUT JOB !!!
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Maximus » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:53 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:if your british and you dont support british troops and side with the people who want to kill young men from england ,then you should give back your passport and get a russian one along with a medal from putin ...maybe robin hood can get free medical from them ,,,



I can not dissagree more with this statement. Basically, what you are saying is right or wrong my Country is right. You will beliive or have to believe anything your government tells you, even if it means sending you to your most certain death, to evade your statement and being labelled as a traitor. You also completely kill a couple of tennants of democracy, which is freedom of thought and expression and belief. Like Blair said to Bush, "I am with you no matter what" even though it was illegal then to invade Iraq and it is being proven now that the invasion was illegal, he becomes or probably will become a war criminal and brings Britains reputation in to desrepute.

If you invade and send troops to a foreign country to occupy it and impose your will there, you must expect some resistance from the locals who are defending their country from foreign aggression. Lets say Russia instigate a coup in Britain, through the clandastine funding of British parties and mdeia (this is what the Americans did in Ukraine by the way) then invades it. Do the Brits become the terrorists now for killing Russian troops from the Russian perspective? :roll:

I completely agree with Robin hood regarding what is actually happening.
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:56 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Vladimir Putin Is The Only Leader The West Has - Paul Craig Roberts

A Reuters news report under the names of presstitutes Robin Emmott and Sabine Siebold shows how devoid the West is of honest, intelligent and responsible journalists and government officials.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nato-summit-idUKKCN0ZN2NN

First we will examine the dishonesty or incompetence of the reporters and then that of Western government officials.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/11/paul-craig-roberts-vladimir-putin-is-the-only-leader-the-west-has-if-we-do-not-support-him-washington-will-destroy-life-on-earth/


REUTERS REPORT
NATO leaders agreed on Friday to deploy military forces to the Baltic states and eastern Poland for the first time and increase air and sea patrols to reassure allies who were once part of the Soviet bloc following Russia's seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.

The 28-nation Western defence alliance decided to move four battalions totalling 3,000 to 4,000 troops into northeastern Europe on a rotating basis to display its readiness to defend eastern members against any Russian aggression.
However, they also underlined their willingness to pursue a dialogue with Moscow and revive confidence-building measures that Russia has spurned since its 2014 annexation of Crimea and support for Russian-speaking rebels in eastern Ukraine.
"These battalions will be robust and they will be multinational. They make clear that an attack on one ally will be considered an attack on the whole alliance," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told a news conference after the summit's first working session in Warsaw, the Polish capital.




Paul Craig Roberts REPORT
Some readers have asked for my take on the Orlando Shooting.
Let’s start with the basic first question. Before there can be a murder declared, there must be a body. Has anyone seen on TV or in newspapers pictures of dead bodies? Bodies should be readily available if the reports are correct that fifty people were killed and 50 or more were wounded and in hospital.
There was no blood and it looked like a crisis acting performance
So has anyone seen any dead bodies? Any body bags? Any wounded taken to hospitals in ambulances? Any of the hospital wounded interviewed by TV reporters? Has any reporter checked with the morgue?
No dead bodies materialized from the Paris attacks except those of the alleged perpetrators. No dead bodies ever emerged from the Sandy Hook shootings. The only dead bodies


well done - you must have been born with a looney detector - or maybe its like the X-MAN except that they have something xtra not like your m8s something missing mayb a good name is the W-MEN
WHAT A NUT JOB !!!


As PCR points out the Reuters report follows the official narrative. His article covers some of the anomalies and I think he is most probably correct.

Orlando: In your haste to make PCR (and me) look a fool ........ you should do a bit more research!

The following link has an interview with Judge Napolitano who quotes the OFFICIAL FBI transcript of the 911 calls, which indicates that there were no deaths in the Pulse night club before 05:13 hrs. The gunman had been in the building since around 2am where there was some gunfire but no deaths, only a few walking wounded. It was not until the SWAT team entered the building at 05.13 that people died. Even the police admit that ‘maybe’ some of the deaths were due to ‘friendly’ fire. In that case bodies would not be removed until forensics had completed their work some hours/days later. An investigation is still on going.

http://yournewswire.com/orlando-smoking-gun-nobody-died-until-the-swat-team-entered/
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Re: Russia accused of clandestine funding of European partie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:51 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:if your british and you dont support british troops and side with the people who want to kill young men from england ,then you should give back your passport and get a russian one along with a medal from putin ...maybe robin hood can get free medical from them ,,,



I can not dissagree more with this statement. Basically, what you are saying is right or wrong my Country is right. You will beliive or have to believe anything your government tells you, even if it means sending you to your most certain death, to evade your statement and being labelled as a traitor. You also completely kill a couple of tennants of democracy, which is freedom of thought and expression and belief. Like Blair said to Bush, "I am with you no matter what" even though it was illegal then to invade Iraq and it is being proven now that the invasion was illegal, he becomes or probably will become a war criminal and brings Britains reputation in to desrepute.

If you invade and send troops to a foreign country to occupy it and impose your will there, you must expect some resistance from the locals who are defending their country from foreign aggression. Lets say Russia instigate a coup in Britain, through the clandastine funding of British parties and mdeia (this is what the Americans did in Ukraine by the way) then invades it. Do the Brits become the terrorists now for killing Russian troops from the Russian perspective? :roll:

I completely agree with Robin hood regarding what is actually happening.


your name will also go in ze book ...
and dont forget i was in the RED ARMY in 1978 so i do you know - still ill leave it up to the bot to pick up 22 U.S.C. and follow the actions of a Russian Cell ..
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