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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:23 pm

mistermax wrote:
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mistermax wrote:In Resolution 573, the Council of Europe supported the legality of the Turkish invasion as per Article 4 of the Guarantee Treaty of 1960, which allows Turkey, Greece, and the United Kingdom to unilaterally intervene militarily in failure of a multilateral response to crisis in Cyprus. The Court of Appeal in Athens further stated in 1979 that the Turkish invasion was legal and that "The real culprits... are the Greek officers who engineered and staged a coup and prepared the conditions for the invasion".

It talks about the legality of an INTERVENTION to facilitate the immediate restoration of the previous (and legal) state of affairs, but certainly not an OCCUPATION… let alone a 45 year one! :)

thats right, intervention was legal, occupation illegal.

But given that Turkey did NOT restore the state of affairs but instead opted to illegally OCCUPY 37% of Cypriot territory, automatically invalidates the very specific and restricted role that was handed to them in accordance with the Zurich agreements.
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:28 pm

In other words, Turkey did NOT exercise a legal intervention (as you falsely claim) but an illegal occupation for which Turkey had no authority.
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby mistermax » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:In other words, Turkey did NOT exercise a legal intervention (as you falsely claim) but an illegal occupation for which Turkey had no authority.


The part of intervention was legal, as the Council of Europe says.
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby RichardB » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:54 pm

mistermax wrote:
Get Real! wrote:In other words, Turkey did NOT exercise a legal intervention (as you falsely claim) but an illegal occupation for which Turkey had no authority.


The part of intervention was legal, as the Council of Europe says.


But using the pretext of an intervention as a route to occupation is illegal no?
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:55 pm

mistermax wrote:
Get Real! wrote:In other words, Turkey did NOT exercise a legal intervention (as you falsely claim) but an illegal occupation for which Turkey had no authority.


The part of intervention was legal, as the Council of Europe says.

The Coucil of Europe is wrong.

Turkey did not exercise an intervention for it did NOT restore the state of affairs and that’s the ONLY definition of “intervention” that Turkey was entitled to.

That both an intervention and an occupation would require some military units to be transferred over to Cyprus is a given, but HOW you use those units is what defines the “work carried out” once you land there!
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:13 pm

Whether you like it or not, Turkey’s ONLY right and obligation was to reinstate Makarios and his parliament and arrest the coupists.

That’s the ONLY right Turkey had because that’s what Turkey signed! :lol:


Who still doesn't get it? :lol:
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby mistermax » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Who still doesn't get it?


European Council
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:39 pm

mistermax wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Who still doesn't get it?


European Council

Well perhaps the fact that the Council of Europe is NOT an authority for settling sovereignty and territorial issues has something to do with it... :)
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby B25 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:42 pm

mistermax wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Who still doesn't get it?


European Council


And you obviously as you keep quoting them as an authority. We can see that Europe is made of, corrupt politicians on Turkeys payroll. Watch them give her visa free travel with the conditions being met!

We would have to be off our heads to accept such a travel arrangement in Cyprus. Take them to your coward country re, keep them there, since you love them so much.

I am still not convince you are a Greek/GC.
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Re: The Process of Solution

Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:45 pm

Whether Turkey acted within the legal framework of the Zurich agreement or not it is immaterial since following the coup against the legal government of the RoC she would have have done precisely what she did did then in order to accomplish her well known goal of dividing the island.

Turkey is illegally occupying our northern parts and has the audacity to demand that fresh guarantor/ invasion rights are given to her now.

Come to think of it, Turkey is considered still by most nations as a ....democracy :lol: :lol:

We must never agree to Turkey being given fresh intervention/ invasion rights over the entire island.

I believe that the vast majority of indigenous T/Cs want nothing more than a united Cyprus with both Turkey and Greece playing a very minor role.
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