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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:57 pm

you are such an ignorant stupid uneducated sharlui gavole. long before the london conference he was contacted by michael sturat rung him up and told him that greeks in cyprus are getting hot under the collar about enosis and what was he going to do about it. but beside this statement which is in this documentary about 30 mins in, the real problem started in 1947 by the yanks setting the what they called stay behind groups all over europe to prevent socialists or communists winning power in their domain. ffs learn before yoy furqione spew your ignorance of simple facts

30 minutes in to the clip you fool you will hear zorlu say how he got involved and when.

what was his answer? he relied on the segasity of the british administration to deal the matter and it was an internal matter to the british. which fuqruine bit do you not understand. tell me and i will post it in charlui lingo so eben fool like you can understand.

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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:18 am

Lordo wrote:you are such an ignorant stupid uneducated sharlui gavole. long before the london conference he was contacted by michael sturat rung him up and told him that greeks in cyprus are getting hot under the collar about enosis and what was he going to do about it. but beside this statement which is in this documentary about 30 mins in, the real problem started in 1947 by the yanks setting the what they called stay behind groups all over europe to prevent socialists or communists winning power in their domain. ffs learn before yoy furqione spew your ignorance of simple facts

30 minutes in to the clip you fool you will hear zorlu say how he got involved and when.

what was his answer? he relied on the segasity of the british administration to deal the matter and it was an internal matter to the british. which fuqruine bit do you not understand. tell me and i will post it in charlui lingo so eben fool like you can understand.



You cretinous old fart, the person speaking at 30 minutes is not Zorlu, he does however expect he British to protect the Turkish Cypriots. He and the Turkish Government must have been aware of the international movement against colonialism following the end of WW2 (led by the Americans) and the possibility of Britain leaving one day. No doubt Turkey was only too pleased to have been brought into the equation, if you think Turkey would have stood idley by when Britain handed Cyrus over to Greece or Makarios you are more stupid than your illiterate ramblings would make me believe.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:10 am

...so. Turkey's problem is with Britain; Cyprus (read: Cypriots) don't exist, right?
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby DT. » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:06 am

Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:you are such an ignorant stupid uneducated sharlui gavole. long before the london conference he was contacted by michael sturat rung him up and told him that greeks in cyprus are getting hot under the collar about enosis and what was he going to do about it. but beside this statement which is in this documentary about 30 mins in, the real problem started in 1947 by the yanks setting the what they called stay behind groups all over europe to prevent socialists or communists winning power in their domain. ffs learn before yoy furqione spew your ignorance of simple facts

30 minutes in to the clip you fool you will hear zorlu say how he got involved and when.

what was his answer? he relied on the segasity of the british administration to deal the matter and it was an internal matter to the british. which fuqruine bit do you not understand. tell me and i will post it in charlui lingo so eben fool like you can understand.



You cretinous old fart, the person speaking at 30 minutes is not Zorlu, he does however expect he British to protect the Turkish Cypriots. He and the Turkish Government must have been aware of the international movement against colonialism following the end of WW2 (led by the Americans) and the possibility of Britain leaving one day. No doubt Turkey was only too pleased to have been brought into the equation, if you think Turkey would have stood idley by when Britain handed Cyrus over to Greece or Makarios you are more stupid than your illiterate ramblings would make me believe.


Fact is that this uneducated populace was led by makarios and grivas who possessed the negotiating skills of a goat. Playing right into Turkeys hands with no view of geopolitical leverage that could have been used in their argument. In short, an island of idiots led by idiots.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:15 am

DT. wrote:
Fact is that this uneducated populace was led by makarios and grivas who possessed the negotiating skills of a goat. Playing right into Turkeys hands with no view of geopolitical leverage that could have been used in their argument. In short, an island of idiots led by idiots.


Absolutely correct but no doubt the "patriots" will disagree. Had Makarios accepted the offer of Home Rule he would, in time, have won genuine democracy and full independence for Cyprus. However, he had seen other colonies and nearby Israel fight for their freedom and believed it was the only way, unfortunately for him he ignored Turkish ambitions and the leverage it had because of its importance to NATO.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:02 pm

Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:you are such an ignorant stupid uneducated sharlui gavole. long before the london conference he was contacted by michael sturat rung him up and told him that greeks in cyprus are getting hot under the collar about enosis and what was he going to do about it. but beside this statement which is in this documentary about 30 mins in, the real problem started in 1947 by the yanks setting the what they called stay behind groups all over europe to prevent socialists or communists winning power in their domain. ffs learn before yoy furqione spew your ignorance of simple facts

30 minutes in to the clip you fool you will hear zorlu say how he got involved and when.

what was his answer? he relied on the segasity of the british administration to deal the matter and it was an internal matter to the british. which fuqruine bit do you not understand. tell me and i will post it in charlui lingo so eben fool like you can understand.



You cretinous old fart, the person speaking at 30 minutes is not Zorlu, he does however expect he British to protect the Turkish Cypriots. He and the Turkish Government must have been aware of the international movement against colonialism following the end of WW2 (led by the Americans) and the possibility of Britain leaving one day. No doubt Turkey was only too pleased to have been brought into the equation, if you think Turkey would have stood idley by when Britain handed Cyrus over to Greece or Makarios you are more stupid than your illiterate ramblings would make me believe.

you mean he could act independently to zorlu, he is talking about the terggish and their actions of the day you stupid idiot. they were not involved at that point. how many ways must it be explained to you.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:06 pm

Jerry wrote:
DT. wrote:
Fact is that this uneducated populace was led by makarios and grivas who possessed the negotiating skills of a goat. Playing right into Turkeys hands with no view of geopolitical leverage that could have been used in their argument. In short, an island of idiots led by idiots.


Absolutely correct but no doubt the "patriots" will disagree. Had Makarios accepted the offer of Home Rule he would, in time, have won genuine democracy and full independence for Cyprus. However, he had seen other colonies and nearby Israel fight for their freedom and believed it was the only way, unfortunately for him he ignored Turkish ambitions and the leverage it had because of its importance to NATO.

it is amazing that we are living in 2016 and you are still oblivious to the real problem.

magarios or grivas and the rest of your mps were never interested in an independent cyprus. they wanted to change one colonial power with another. there are some dumb charluis but you two take the biscuit.

where did magarios ever say he wanted independence. he used the words self determination so chobans like you will accept it continue with your sleep. asholes.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:36 pm

...so. The majority, as a majority, established a majority, perhaps to choose union with Greece, as they are Greeks, for Freedom (as in what Universal Principals define as a right,) to choose.

...Cypriots did not join together, they had already been effectively divided, the affect on such a Heritance seemed irrelevant to the interlocutors.

As subjugators, "but one" remains.

...the "Greeks" and their contemporaries the "Turks" represent a single intention, against any resolve or harmony between them. They find in Cyprus the ultimate battleground for their mythological antipathy, safe and far away from home, close enough to occupy the minds of their own masses. It is as a said, a Cyprus for Cypriots, will leave the "GCs" and "TCs" most unhappy.

Cyprus exists. And after all this time, Cypriots (still) exist too.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:19 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...so. The majority, as a majority, established a majority, perhaps to choose union with Greece, as they are Greeks, for Freedom (as in what Universal Principals define as a right,) to choose.

...Cypriots did not join together, they had already been effectively divided, the affect on such a Heritance seemed irrelevant to the interlocutors.

As subjugators, "but one" remains.

...the "Greeks" and their contemporaries the "Turks" represent a single intention, against any resolve or harmony between them. They find in Cyprus the ultimate battleground for their mythological antipathy, safe and far away from home, close enough to occupy the minds of their own masses. It is as a said, a Cyprus for Cypriots, will leave the "GCs" and "TCs" most unhappy.

Cyprus exists. And after all this time, Cypriots (still) exist too.

does it really. when were you last in downtown south nicosia rw, it looks more like greace to me. cyprus died in december 1963.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:56 am

...and speaking of 1960, no network of asphalt roads island-wide, no civil works, no water either; this, the barracks the British left us, what they took from the Ottoman's before them. You may see a more civilized Nicosia and call it "greace", but i don't, i call it progress, progress earned by the sweat of their brow, Cypriots as Cypriots, and not through handouts. Speaking of water and roads, what is left from 1974, (or 1983) what is more? Except from Turkey, what have "you" made of self-representation, nothing it seems, to speak so jealously as a "Turk", speaking it seems for "that" side about the "other" side.

...no Lordo, (despite so many dates, in infamy alive) Cyprus is not dead. The other half do exist, they remain; Cypriots.

...there are many dates where we can remember Cypriots betrayed, i suggest you consider that though they were murdered as "Greeks", or as "Turks", they were not anything of the kind, they were Cypriots, and murdered for "being" Cypriots.
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