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What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby MrH » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:17 pm

What the Greek Cypriots Will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus:

(1) As of today, twenty-four of the world's one hundred ninety-three countries have a federal political set up.

(2) Federalism is often proposed as a constitutional mechanism for addressing the inherent problems with power sharing across different groups, as well as to the risks to minority populations that majoritarian democracy can pose. And yet, scholars are divided over the specific purpose, design and effectiveness of federalism as a mechanism for democratic governance.

(3) In federalism, there is a written constitution which formulates this power sharing arrangement between the state and its units. These units, referred to as the provincial or regional governments, have the power to act independently in certain areas of governance.

Disadvantages

Conflict of Authority
Sharing of power between the centre and the states includes both advantages and disadvantages of a federal organization. Sometimes there can be overlapping of work and subsequent confusion regarding who is responsible for what.

Can Lead to Corruption
Federal system of government is very expensive as more people are elected to office, both at the state and the centre, than necessary. Thus, it is often said that only rich countries can afford it. Too many elected representatives with overlapping roles may also lead to corruption.

Pitches State vs State
Federalism leads to unnecessary competition between different regions. There can be a rebellion by a regional government against the national government too. Both scenarios pose a threat to the country's integrity.

Uneven Distribution of Wealth
It promotes regional inequalities. Natural resources, industries, employment opportunities differ from region to region. Hence, earnings and wealth are unevenly distributed. Rich states offer more opportunities and benefits to its citizens than poor states. Thus, the gap between rich and poor states widens.

Promotes Regionalism
It can make state governments selfish and concerned only about their own region's progress. They can formulate policies which might be detrimental to other regions. For example, pollution from a province which is promoting industrialization in a big way can affect another region which depends solely on agriculture and cause crop damage.

Framing of Incorrect Policies
Federalism does not eliminate poverty. Even in New York, there are poor neighbourhoods like Inwood. The reason for this may be that intellectuals and not the masses are invited by the local government during policy framing. These intellectuals may not understand the local needs properly and thus, policies might not yield good results.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:03 pm

:roll: Those things apply for the normal federations. Not to a federation created with ethnic cleansing and stealing. There will NEVER be a federation in Cyprus. Such federation would legalize the partition of Cyprus and on top of that would give to the Turks the right to veto our democratic choices for our country. We are not going to vote for something that would make the whole Cyprus a protectorate of Turkey like the north is today. Forget about it!
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:34 pm

who left the cage door open again. bullshit sotos. you wanted all of cyprus and gambled and lost now sod off back into your cage.

funny how the federation has been agreed signed and sealed. smalll detail is left. and there you are dreaming again.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:26 am

Lordo wrote:who left the cage door open again. bullshit sotos. you wanted all of cyprus and gambled and lost now sod off back into your cage.

funny how the federation has been agreed signed and sealed. smalll detail is left. and there you are dreaming again.

Give us another date, kuz... It was funny last time... :lol:

cyprus44317.html

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:31 am

MrH wrote:What the Greek Cypriots Will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus:

(1) As of today, twenty-four of the world's one hundred ninety-three countries have a federal political set up.

(2) Federalism is often proposed as a constitutional mechanism for addressing the inherent problems with power sharing across different groups, as well as to the risks to minority populations that majoritarian democracy can pose. And yet, scholars are divided over the specific purpose, design and effectiveness of federalism as a mechanism for democratic governance.

(3) In federalism, there is a written constitution which formulates this power sharing arrangement between the state and its units. These units, referred to as the provincial or regional governments, have the power to act independently in certain areas of governance.

Disadvantages

Conflict of Authority
Sharing of power between the centre and the states includes both advantages and disadvantages of a federal organization. Sometimes there can be overlapping of work and subsequent confusion regarding who is responsible for what.

Can Lead to Corruption
Federal system of government is very expensive as more people are elected to office, both at the state and the centre, than necessary. Thus, it is often said that only rich countries can afford it. Too many elected representatives with overlapping roles may also lead to corruption.

Pitches State vs State
Federalism leads to unnecessary competition between different regions. There can be a rebellion by a regional government against the national government too. Both scenarios pose a threat to the country's integrity.

Uneven Distribution of Wealth
It promotes regional inequalities. Natural resources, industries, employment opportunities differ from region to region. Hence, earnings and wealth are unevenly distributed. Rich states offer more opportunities and benefits to its citizens than poor states. Thus, the gap between rich and poor states widens.

Promotes Regionalism
It can make state governments selfish and concerned only about their own region's progress. They can formulate policies which might be detrimental to other regions. For example, pollution from a province which is promoting industrialization in a big way can affect another region which depends solely on agriculture and cause crop damage.

Framing of Incorrect Policies
Federalism does not eliminate poverty. Even in New York, there are poor neighbourhoods like Inwood. The reason for this may be that intellectuals and not the masses are invited by the local government during policy framing. These intellectuals may not understand the local needs properly and thus, policies might not yield good results.

I will give you one thing you won't like in a free Cyprus... you will have to work because Turkey won't be there to provide freebies.

Now sod off, lazy bugger. :wink:
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby MrH » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:44 am

Kurupetos, for once you are actually right! Long live Turkiyem
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:33 am

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:who left the cage door open again. bullshit sotos. you wanted all of cyprus and gambled and lost now sod off back into your cage.

funny how the federation has been agreed signed and sealed. small detail is left. and there you are dreaming again.

Give us another date, kuz... It was funny last time... :lol:

cyprus44317.html

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

it will be even funnier this time round when they finally anounce the agreement ennen
okuzu yedik guyrugu galdi gavole.

next date is the decleration on the 14th of september. set your clocks to the correct time though. that is the terggish time agusede.
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:38 pm

MrH wrote:Kurupetos, for once you are actually right! Long live Turkiyem

I bet you look like this guy... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:39 pm

Lordo wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:who left the cage door open again. bullshit sotos. you wanted all of cyprus and gambled and lost now sod off back into your cage.

funny how the federation has been agreed signed and sealed. small detail is left. and there you are dreaming again.

Give us another date, kuz... It was funny last time... :lol:

cyprus44317.html

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

it will be even funnier this time round when they finally anounce the agreement ennen
okuzu yedik guyrugu galdi gavole.

next date is the decleration on the 14th of september. set your clocks to the correct time though. that is the terggish time agusede.

It's a countdown for you, battihodjehalo. :mrgreen:
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Re: What the GCs will NOT like about a Federal Cyprus

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:46 pm

the clock is ticking boys

tick tock tick tock................................
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