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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Schnauzer » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:33 pm

Here is an interesting read up on the subject.


Larry Silverstein Does it.

I was in Cyprus for five days where I stayed with Jim Searcy. He had just produced a 9-11 CD and noted, "They screwed up Building 7 and UA Flight 93. If people figure those out, the scandal will fly."
I answered him, "They're already figured out. It's the same scandal."
Jim didn't know what I was saying. And when I got home I looked on the internet. No one had put it together. I can't believe this, but you're hearing a new 9-11 fact.
Flight 93 was supposed to knock Building 7 down and the building was jammed with explosives for the moment. But instead, the plane fell in Pennsylvania so owner Larry Silverstein had to bring the building down by himself. That, or expose the demolitives for the world to see.

But first some facts. Building 7 fell in a controlled demolition. Larry said so. Need I ask? Do you know how how long it takes to rig a building for a perfect fall? Larry broke the record by a few weeks, rigging his building in a few hours, while the twin towers smoldered beside him.
http://www.wtc7.net/steeldisposal.html

Yet, despite the paramount importance of the remains, they were hauled away and melted down as quickly as possible. The steel was sold to scrap metals vendors and most was soon on ships bound for China and India. Some of the smaller pieces and a few token large pieces of steel marked 'save' were allowed to be inspected at Fresh Kills landfill by FEMA's BPAT volunteers. Officials running the "cleanup operation" took pains to make sure the structural steel didn't end up anywhere but in blast furnaces. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks hauling loads from Ground Zero at a cost of $1000 each.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... 50106Larry Silversteinanswers.htm
Questions about the highly suspicious nature of the building's collapse remained comparatively muted until January 2004, when a PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, originally broadcast in September 2002, received attention across the Internet.
The documentary was made infamous for one comment made by Larry Silverstein on the subject of 9/11. Larry Silverstein states, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html
For a building to collapse into its own footprint, as WTC 7 did, ALL of the load bearing members must fail at the exact same moment. This is achieved in controlled demolitions.

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

Meanwhile, Flight 93 had to be shot down. It's nose was found eight miles from the tail in a Pennsylvania field. Such stories were made up to explain the mess! The terrorists let the toughest guys get together to use their personal handsets to call home. Someone heard, "Let's get rolling, boys." They rushed the cockpit and saved the nation.
Except cellphones don't work from 35,000 feet up.

http://physics911.ca/org/modules/weblog ... blog_id=65
CeeCee Lyles husband said that he saw the caller ID, Ed Felt had called from a bathroom, and Airphone cords don't reach that far.
As a matter of fact, in a bathroom, one would expect that it would be harder to make a call, probably bringing down the power about in 1/2 (3dB).
Ted Olson first said that Barbara had used a cell phone, then he said she was in the bathroom, then he said she forgot her purse and had to borrow a credit card from someone to make an airphone call. his story kept changing.
If you look at the flight maps, most of the calls for flight 93 "should" have been made at 35,000ft or even above.
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum ... ic.php?315

And who were the select passengers on board? Pretty unusual and tiny group, no?

Flight 93 had only forty four people in total, including four suspected hijackers. Thirty
seven passengers (excluding crew) on a plane that holds around two hundred people
http://team8plus.org/content.php?article.8
23 of those (at least) bought tickets at the last minute !
also several people came from flight 91 that was cancelled.
Did ANYONE buy tickets for flight 93 ahead of time???

QUESTIONS FOR LARRY

In 1980 Larry Silverstein won a bid to buy the last undeveloped parcel from the Port Authority of New York.

The Port Authority is not a municipal property. It was founded by and owned by the Rockefeller family.

When the attacks occurred, Larry Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower. His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt.

This, of course, was a lie. He was not debating his wife and his son was out of danger.


How concerned should we be therefore that Larry Silverstein Properties bought the lease from MetLife for Chicago's Sears Tower in March 2004?

We should be extremely concerned.

Following the attacks, Larry Silverstein was awarded an insurance payment of more than three and a half billion dollars to settle his seven-week-old insurance policy[3]. In addition, the Larry Silverstein group sued the insurers liable for the World Trade Center for another three and a half billion dollars, claiming that by an obscure clause in their contract, the two planes constituted two separate terrorist attacks[4]. In total, Larry Silverstein was awarded nearly $7.2 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers[5].

No point losing, now is there?
We now get to Larry's politics. What do we discover? His first customer for the new Building 7 is a Chinese revolutionary. Larry may have owned the WTC inside, but the outside concourse was Israeli. And who did Larry support in the last Israeli election but the king of chopping Israel to nothing,
the great, now-headless, Ariel Sharon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/nyreg ... fS%2fLarry Silverstein%2c%20Larry%20A%2e&oref=slogin

He is, by most accounts, an unusual businessman, especially in China. He stresses vision and serving his country as much as the bottom line. He said his real interests were history, Marx, Hegel and Mao.
Then there are the pictures of Che Guevara and Yasser Arafat in his office. He explained that they were both revolutionaries, emphasizing that he admired Mr. Arafat's discipline and courage, not his politics.
"He spent his whole life trying to achieve one thing," Mr. Feng said. "He had great determination; real perseverance."

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On September 12, 2001, The Jerusalem Post reported: “Frank Lowy, who emigrated to Australia from Israel in 1952, owns the 99-year lease for the 425,000 square foot retail portion of the destroyed World Trade Center…Westfield said today that it has insurance cover against terrorist attacks and its earnings will not be materially affected.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=90159
A report by Israel's Channel Ten television reporter Raviv Drucker last night provided a detailed report on the Sunday night affair. He related how the organizer and hostess - NIna Rosenwald - sent letters to selected invitees asking for $10,000 per person or couple, and how the 5th Avenue location was closed off for over an hour for what the police described as a "top secret" reason. Only the 15 invited couples were permitted to enter Rosenwald's apartment, after having paid the minimum amount in advance.
Rosenwald is a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations).

Among the participants at the dinner were World Trade Center insurance beneficiary Larry Silverstein.
A reporter asked Larry Silverstein on his way out if Sharon had thanked him for his donation. Larry Silverstein replied, "No. But it's not necessary; we're here to support the man."

It's simply a God-awful world for Jews and those who know our history is divine. It's even worse because anti-semites can have a field day and not have a clue how dumb they are. Larry Silverstein can call himself as Jew, but he is working for the Sabbataian/Frankist fold. They hate Judaism and use all their power to make it disappear into the worship of the anti-Jewish fiend, Shabbtai Tzvi.
For, this they created Israel.
But Israel turned religious and that had to be stopped. So the religious began to "disengage." And the more Israel's religious are drawn into the mainstream, the more Iraq, and Afghanistan and Iraq explode.
Even though it's staring the anti-semites in the face, they don't get it. Their closest ally in the Middle East is not the Arabs, who despise them thoroughly, and it is surely not the Israeli peace camp, leading the nation to permanent disengagement and taking the world with it.
It's those right-wing, religious Israeli Jews.
So, by being too dumb to sort it out, the anti-semites are letting Larry and his New World Order buddies get away with anything they want.

And only one brilliant site on the whole internet figured the whole thing out:

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Gros ... alypse.htm

IV. THE FALSE JEW CONNECTION:

NAMES: Leon Fuerth, Andrew Gitlin, Larry Silverstein, Maurice Hank Greenberg, Henry Kissinger, Rahm Emanuel, Ariel Sharon
THEORY: People like Fuerth, Emanuel (U.S. Mossad chief in the Clinton era and White House Rasputin), Kissinger, Gitlin, Greenberg, Larry Silverstein, Sharon are reputedly leaders of a homosexual satanic underground (at least its relatively small Jewish division, overshadowed by its much larger non-Jewish division). They are false Jews. From their midst allegedly came the impulse to assassinate the Israeli Prime Minister and peace dove Yitzhak Rabin, the impulse to provoke the still ongoing Second Intifada in Palestine in fall 2000, and the re-emergence of the known serial murderer and terrorist Ariel Sharon. Sharon was elected Prime Minister of Israel on February 6, 2001 in a special election. This grouping sent several prominent members into the informal committee(s) that perpetrated 9-11 on America. There are multiple links to the second-generation Meyer Lansky crime syndicate. A note of clarification: I am NOT saying ”it was the Jews”, and do not quote me thus.

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I could have added, from the moment Larry was informed Building 7 HAD to come down because its flight wasn't arriving, to the present day... but I held back. Still, look at the connections. July 11 of last year saw London under attack. And who was there but Rudy Guliani and Binyamin Netanyahu. Were they in town to observe the reaction? Guliani for sure.You needed a mayor to run 9-11. That's why they made him a knight. I'll say Netanyahu too on gut reaction.

http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/f ... ic.php?387

This report, repeated by IsraelNN.com, added that the Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Foreign Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address an economic summit.?

The Frankist Michael Chertoff kept New Orleans wet and thirsty for as long as he could, and his
cousin kept the 9-11 critics stupid.

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm
'Who is Benjamin Chertoff, the senior researcher at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his cousin now heads.

I saw much this week. Driving in the backwoods of Cyprus looking for bass lakes, I saw the future the British military has built there. I drove by a brand new prison far from the people and as big as a good-sized town.
But nothing was as upsetting as my son and I spending 10 minutes at Israeli passport control, coming and going, and watching the policewomen reading all about me and receiving instructions by phone on what to do about me.
I'm now convinced the Israeli authorities are committed to shutting me down. I may help them along a bit. It is clear enough after ten years that not one person anywhere has the courage to fund what I know to save the Jews.
And that is a huge mistake because 9-11 may come out and the Jews will be blamed with the Frankist/Sabbataians. More worrisome, they will be disengaged to uselessness while the nation is buried in missiles.
There are so many wonderful options. When will it stop??

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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:56 pm

The logic is flawed in so many ways.

If the military was forced to shoot down an airliner, they will do it and there is no point in attempting to cover it up.

It's what the military is paid to do. It's their job to protect American citizens and if that means shooting down an airliner then so be it. There is nothing at all unusual about such a scenario. Restricted Airspace is NOTAMed on a continuous basis and whilst that doesn't mean they will shoot down violations all the time, you remain in no doubt that this is exactly what they would do to a non responding aircraft if something big is occurring like a G20 or US Presidential visit, especially when the NOTAM specifically mentions armed fighters patrolling the RA. Yes, NOTAMs like this are issued regularly.

The public expect nothing less.

And quite seriously, I don't think anyone really knows what they are talking about in a controlled demolition. When one supporting structure fails, then the weight is redistributed to the other supporting structures until they exceed their weight loading and fail as well. The building is always going to collapse on itself. It will not topple over.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:03 pm

Paphitis:
And quite seriously, I don't think anyone really knows what they are talking about in a controlled demolition. When one supporting structure fails, then the weight is redistributed to the other supporting structures until they exceed their weight loading and fail as well. The building is always going to collapse on itself. It will not topple over.

But, you know what you are talking about do you? :roll:

Try applying Newton’s Principals of Motion to your ill-founded opinion and, if you have a more than 2 brain cells, you will realise what a load of old cobblers you are spouting!

For any structure to collapse straight down under the force of gravity alone ..... the load has to be distributed equally, evenly and then re-distributed at the exact same moment in time ..... otherwise the load distribution is unequal and the structure will fall in the direction with the least resistance to gravity. FACT!

WTC 7 is the weak link. We know it had suffered no damage from aircraft impact ..... so no 38,000 litres of fuel to melt/soften the steel. None of the three buildings sustained damage that was symmetrical. You cannot get a symmetrical collapse if the forces involved are asymmetrical ..... it defies the Laws of Physics ..... and common sense! :roll:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Schnauzer » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:45 pm

Deal of the Year: World Trade Center, New York, NY

Weighing in at $3.2 billion, the acquisition of the 99-year leasehold of the World Trade Center was the largest of the year. "Notwithstanding the emotional difficulty of celebrating anything related to the World Trade Center is the fact that upon completion of its acquisition by Larry Silverstein, it was clearly the deal of the year for the industry, and now more than ever, a deal of [a] lifetime for Silverstein" said Ken Zakin, managing director at Insignia/ESG. [iiRealEstate]


Silverstein Makes a Huge
Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks



Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said. "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights."

But the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe.


From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. [BusinessWeek]

How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

Also, the towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built.


It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings. [Arctic Beacon]

Other New York developers had been driven into bankruptcy by the costly mandated renovations, and $200 million represented an entire year's worth of revenues from the World Trade Towers.

The perfect collapse of the twin towers changed the picture.



Under a pending agreement, a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $124 million, The New York Times reported Saturday. [MontereyHerald 11/22/2003]


Instead of renovation, Silverstein is rebuilding, funded by the insurance coverage on the property which 'fortuitously' covered acts of terrorism. Even better, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy, based on the two, in Silverstein's view, separate attacks. The total potential payout is $7.1 billion, more than enough to build a fabulous new complex and leave a hefty profit for the Silverstein Group, including Larry Silverstein himself.

As reported in The Washington Post, the insurance company, Swiss Re, has gone to court to argue that the 9/11 disaster was only one attack, not two and that therefore the insurance payout should be limited to $3.55 billion, still enough to rebuild the complex.

Update: WTC Leaseholder May Collect Up To $4.6B



A federal jury ruled that the assault on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was in fact two occurrences for insurance purposes. The finding in U.S. District Court in Manhattan means leaseholder Larry Silverstein may collect up to $4.6 billion, according to reports. [Forbes.com 12/06/04]


The result of court ruling: Silverstein makes a huge profit off of the 9/11 attacks.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:54 am

I don't care. You guys have a long way to go in order to convince people this was a set piece. Especially when you do not acknowledge the basic science of energy transfer because of the collision and the enormous fires and heat from all the Jet Fuel. Yes well, you can't just pick and choose and create your own thesis or story.

And who cares if the USAF shot down UA93? The people on this plane were already dead, and credit must go to the passengers which prevented the aircraft from reaching its intended target or the USAF for knocking it out in time or perhaps both.

Credit to all involved.

They say the Hellenic Air Force shot down the ill fated Chpriot Helios Flight headed for Athens. Eye witness reports from the local kafeneio report 2 Greek F-16s pulling up over the aircraft as the B737 went into a hillside.

Should I believe the Kafeneio or or the investigation teams from Greece, Cyprus, and USA (Boeing)?
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:31 am

Paphitis:
I don't care. You guys have a long way to go in order to convince people this was a set piece. Especially when you do not acknowledge the basic science of energy transfer because of the collision and the enormous fires and heat from all the Jet Fuel. Yes well, you can't just pick and choose and create your own thesis or story.


Boy you really are dumb!

More and more people are convinced that these events do not fit the official story. I repeat:

How do you not understand the concept that:

If you consider all the detail you have added about speed, weight, fuel load, size, kinetic energy etc. ............. all those considerations combined still failed to bring down the twin towers. We all saw it ..... airplane(s) ..... bang ..... twin towers still standing and spewing black smoke for around an hour before they descend in a fashion remarkably similar to a controlled demolition. So .....they were not bought down by the impact ........ irrefutable fact!

I repeat .... so what did bring them down? Answer ..... we don't know!


There were no 'enormous' fires.... they were office furniture and fittings burning! Black smoke = poor combustion = lower temperatures = certainly insufficient to soften or melt steel. After some 2 minutes there were no Jet-A1 fuel fires it had all burned up leaving office fires in its place.

And who cares if the USAF shot down UA93? The people on this plane were already dead, and credit must go to the passengers which prevented the aircraft from reaching its intended target or the USAF for knocking it out in time or perhaps both.

Credit to all involved.


So you admit that Flt.93 had a designated target? I think an intelligent guess would concur with Schnauzers post that the target was more than likely ..... WTC.7? Makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:09 am

How does one account for the vast amount of molten steel and dross that was unapproachable for weeks AFTER the collapse ?.

Only a fool would suppose that the mighty steel beams (inner core) of the towers would melt in the relatively low temperatures (compared to those required to melt steel) which are produced from the combustion of aviation fuels and 'Office Furniture'.

Now, come on Pap, sort it out. :roll:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:47 am

Schnauzer wrote:
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I saw much this week. Driving in the backwoods of Cyprus looking for bass lakes, I saw the future the British military has built there. I drove by a brand new prison far from the people and as big as a good-sized town.

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And where in Cyprus is that? It's obviously a fabrication, so how do I know that the entire piece isn't?
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:30 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
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I saw much this week. Driving in the backwoods of Cyprus looking for bass lakes, I saw the future the British military has built there. I drove by a brand new prison far from the people and as big as a good-sized town.

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And where in Cyprus is that? It's obviously a fabrication, so how do I know that the entire piece isn't?

There is not such a place in Cyprus, the Pervert is hallucinating!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:56 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
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I saw much this week. Driving in the backwoods of Cyprus looking for bass lakes, I saw the future the British military has built there. I drove by a brand new prison far from the people and as big as a good-sized town.

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And where in Cyprus is that? It's obviously a fabrication, so how do I know that the entire piece isn't?


It could be! That is where the ability to apply some common sense comes in handy! :roll:
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