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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:12 am

B25 wrote:I hear you, so why is the US in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and wherever else in the ME, it's not for fun. It is for bases and resources. The US would not spend this magnitude of money for no good reason. Unless it's to keep her arms companies in business. I wonder how many Senators have shares in these companies????


The US and allies have withdrawn from both Afghanistan and Iraq.

It was however premature and a mistake to withdraw from Iraq.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:21 am

Very early this morning on BFBS (Radio 5 UK) there was a guy who I think was either ex-CIA or ex-FBI, who explained that there was a cock-up in communications between the two services. The CIA was working with Saudi intelligence and had an agreement they would just keep tabs on these guys but not arrest them. The intent was to take them and hand them over to the Saudi’s for ‘re-programming’ in Saudi, then events took over. This is apparently covered in the withheld 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission evidence that have recently been released.

NOTE!: There is a programme on ITV (?) this evening that covers the story. No conspiracy, just a case of inter-service secrecy to hang on to the case as CIA jurisdiction rather than a domestic FBI case. CIA didn’t tell the FBI until it was too late!

BTW: Paphitis .... we are both right about the manifests! The one you posted was the original as was at the departure gate but apparently, when the FBI became involved they took all the manifests and released them some hours later with the hijackers names removed. Sounds feasible ............. to protect ‘National Security’ and all that? :wink:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:28 am

Paphitis wrote:
B25 wrote:I hear you, so why is the US in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and wherever else in the ME, it's not for fun. It is for bases and resources. The US would not spend this magnitude of money for no good reason. Unless it's to keep her arms companies in business. I wonder how many Senators have shares in these companies????


The US and allies have withdrawn from both Afghanistan and Iraq.

It was however premature and a mistake to withdraw from Iraq.


No they haven't,( not sure about the Allies) , but the US have just increased their numbers on the ground in Afghanistan and there are still many still in Iraq, 'advising' the Iraqis and supplying air cover to the forces fighting DAESH..

I agree it was a mistake but the big mistake was going there in the first place ........ a VERY BIG MISTAKE! :roll:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby B25 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:25 pm

I rest my case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ptvvbaR0-U

US BS eaters just carry on and swallow all you can.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:35 pm

the yanks have just anounced they wil give 38 billion dollars in aid to israel. how legal is that considering the yanks have a law that prohibits giving of aid to a country that has neuclear weapons.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby B25 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:48 pm

Lordo wrote:the yanks have just anounced they wil give 38 billion dollars in aid to israel. how legal is that considering the yanks have a law that prohibits giving of aid to a country that has neuclear weapons.


What the f gas tgat to do with 9/11 dickhead.

They give the say aid to Turkey to invade and kill its neighbours, f morom.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:36 am

B25 wrote:I rest my case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ptvvbaR0-U

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I'm sorry B25 but, ALL the buildings were "controlled demolishing", including WTC7, EXCEPT for the Twin Towers, and your video proves it despite what the voice says. When "controlled demolishing" takes place, the buildings collapse from ground up. When it's not "controlled demolishing" like the Twin Towers, the buildings collapse from top to bottom, unless you want us to believe that every floor on the Twin Towers were rigged with explosives to go off in a timely fashion from top to bottom at the speed (almost) of gravity! :wink:
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:23 am

Robin Hood wrote:Very early this morning on BFBS (Radio 5 UK) there was a guy who I think was either ex-CIA or ex-FBI, who explained that there was a cock-up in communications between the two services. The CIA was working with Saudi intelligence and had an agreement they would just keep tabs on these guys but not arrest them. The intent was to take them and hand them over to the Saudi’s for ‘re-programming’ in Saudi, then events took over. This is apparently covered in the withheld 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission evidence that have recently been released.

NOTE!: There is a programme on ITV (?) this evening that covers the story. No conspiracy, just a case of inter-service secrecy to hang on to the case as CIA jurisdiction rather than a domestic FBI case. CIA didn’t tell the FBI until it was too late!

BTW: Paphitis .... we are both right about the manifests! The one you posted was the original as was at the departure gate but apparently, when the FBI became involved they took all the manifests and released them some hours later with the hijackers names removed. Sounds feasible ............. to protect ‘National Security’ and all that? :wink:


Yes it is very feasible.

Once this terrorist attack took place, the CIA and NSA would have taken over and shut down the country, airports, government, secured the President and they would have over arching superiority over the FBI, FAA and NATSB. Sounds like common sense to me that they would have commandeered all the manifests and removed names before publishing them in the public arena. They would be deciding what is released and what is not. Why? Well they would be thinking that the hijackers had accomplices and they would not be sure if there will be other attempts not necessarily involving planes.

This stuff is not public information. The public do not have a right to know when hundreds more lives could be lost. The USA was under attack. This was probably one of the biggest attacks since Pearl Harbour and the Americans didn't even know what was going to happen next.

When the first 2 aircraft went in, the Australian PM was enroute to Wahington in his RAAF Jet. The USAF scrambled jets for its protection and escorted it to Canada as it could no longer land anywhere in the USA, not even at a Military base. The meeting with Bush was cancelled and even he was evacuated as if WW3 had just been declared.

It was chaos and Bedlum. Millions of passengers stranded and thousands more who can't get into America, including US citizens.

The only plausible conspiracy I see is that names were removed to also hide the alleged connections of 1 or 2 of the hijackers to some powerful people in Saudi Arabia, which is aside to the operational necessities of doing this. We also know that Osama Bin Laden had strong Saudi connections. Still a long stretch to be saying that the Saudi Government was involved but it is not impossible.

You can bet that US Intelligence will however know. Whether they choose to reveal that information is another matter. Of course they are withholding information and they will continue to do this for some years to come. They are paid by the taxpayer to do some rather very spooky job. Not an easy job to do either when your entire life is lived under false pretenses and your entire family think you're a life insurance salesman.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:39 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
B25 wrote:I hear you, so why is the US in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and wherever else in the ME, it's not for fun. It is for bases and resources. The US would not spend this magnitude of money for no good reason. Unless it's to keep her arms companies in business. I wonder how many Senators have shares in these companies????


The US and allies have withdrawn from both Afghanistan and Iraq.

It was however premature and a mistake to withdraw from Iraq.


No they haven't,( not sure about the Allies) , but the US have just increased their numbers on the ground in Afghanistan and there are still many still in Iraq, 'advising' the Iraqis and supplying air cover to the forces fighting DAESH..

I agree it was a mistake but the big mistake was going there in the first place ........ a VERY BIG MISTAKE! :roll:


Australia also has troops in Afghanistan but they are their on invitation from the Afghan Government to train Afghan Security Forces and they come under Afghan Control.

No longer are there any occupation troops as control has been transferred to the Afghans.
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Re: IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS 15 YEARS ON.

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:40 am

B25 wrote:I rest my case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ptvvbaR0-U

US BS eaters just carry on and swallow all you can.


You just carry on making a as up
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