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The Classic Browser feedback...

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At a quick glance how do you find the appearance of this browser?

I think it sucks big time!
1
20%
It’s pretty average…
2
40%
Looks pretty good.
0
No votes
Quite impressive.
1
20%
Astronomically brilliant!
1
20%
Other...
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 5

Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:08 am

Maximus wrote:So what is new, unique and authentic about your browser? This should come first, austhetics should come last. If no one is going to use it, then it does not matter what it looks like.

The Classic Browser excels in many areas:


Tab Quantity:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: ???

Classic : Limited by user’s memory



Tab History:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Limited to 50

Classic : Limited by user’s memory



Rendering Speed:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Use disk cache profusely

Classic : No disk cache



Junk File Leftovers
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Chrome: 380MB odd before a cleanup processes *may* trigger and probably won’t.

Classic : 20-30mb max with auto-clean upon session exit.



Viewport:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Pretty small

Classic : 92% of the working area (Largest I’ve ever seen)



Site Scraping:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Script via the developer’s tools

Classic : Text, Images, Videos, Links and Script.



Password processing:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Various cumbersome methods involving interaction

Classic : Instant automated logging via HTTP/S headers




User’s Favorites :
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Skinny pull down menus you can hardly see

Classic : Full screen multiple configurable menus of UNLIMITED capacity.



User Privacy:
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Chrome/Edge/FF: Discloses referrer and navigator object. Keeps history of everything making users legally liable through browsing.

Classic : Discloses next to nothing, and records zero history on the hard disk.



There's much more but I can't remember everything.
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Maximus » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:12 am

are you planning on selling end user licenses or are you going to give it away for free?
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:17 am

Maximus wrote:are you planning on selling end user licenses or are you going to give it away for free?

It’ll be free like most browsers and *if* I can earn a million users or more I can then get into existing royalty plans with the big companies by promoting their search engine, etc as default.
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Sotos » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:52 am

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:GR what we are judging now is merely the looks of the browser which is the easiest thing to get right. If you can't even get the design right then you stand no chance in convincing anybody that your browser is better, faster, more secure etc than those created by tech giants like Google, Microsoft, Apple etc. Do you know how many top engineers those companies have? They wouldn't hire you even as an intern! You can never create a browser that is better than those but if you could make a decent design then maybe you would be able to fool a few people ;)

You sure come across like you’re in a LOT pain Sotos… :lol:

I do feel for you… you wouldn’t stand a chance writing a shitty one-tab browser let alone a good one! :cry:


If I had no real work and I wanted to waste my time for no good reason then I could surely make a better one than you. But I am not that stupid to think that I can compete with companies like Google and Microsoft. Not only those companies have a big number to top engineers that have many years of experience in developing a browser, they also have huge marketing channels to promote their products. You should be crying for wasting your time for nothing ;)
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Sotos » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:14 am

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:So what is new, unique and authentic about your browser? This should come first, austhetics should come last. If no one is going to use it, then it does not matter what it looks like.

The Classic Browser excels in many areas:


:lol: From those things I can conclude that even though you are using Chromium your browser will be slower than Chrome (you have no support for local caching), will consume a lot more memory (since everything is kept in RAM) and will luck basic features (e.g. history is a useful feature that all browsers offer, which you can turn off if you don't want it).
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:38 am

Sotos wrote:If I had no real work and I wanted to waste my time for no good reason then I could surely make a better one than you.

Don’t kid yourself Sotiraki mou… :lol:

You don’t have the software development experience and there’s not enough website development (front or back end) experience that can help you when it comes to writing full blown desktop software… they are a different animal.

It’s what separates the men from the boys… :)
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:43 am

Sotos wrote::lol: From those things I can conclude that even though you are using Chromium your browser will be slower than Chrome (you have no support for local caching),

Assumptions! :roll: You should ASK someone like me who has actually run tests to check this because I needed to.

The Chromium disk cache is a MONSTROUS sub-system that not only uses up a tremendous amount of resources, not only is it full of bugs (see below), but it actually SLOWS DOWN page rendering because of the non-stop disk access.

It creates gargantuan cache files that it constantly has to traverse back and forth looking for the page to service History, so as you can imagine… it’s slow.

The Classic browser can render a page in the blink of an eye unlike Chrome. Believe it.

Sotos wrote:...will consume a lot more memory (since everything is kept in RAM) and will luck basic features (e.g. history is a useful feature that all browsers offer, which you can turn off if you don't want it).

No Sotiraki, the trick is to custom-create your own frame history manager which also involves replacing buggy functions like…

FrameID.contentWindow.history.back();
FrameID.contentWindow.history.forward();
FrameID.contentWindow.history.go(-1);
FrameID.contentWindow.history.go(1);
FrameID.contentWindow.location.reload();
FrameID.contentWindow.location.replace();


You cannot and shouldn’t use any of the above if you’re gonna write a serious multi-tabbed browser because they are very buggy with multiple frames and rely on the disk cache monster I mentioned earlier.

There is also no way of detecting the start of history so if you call history.back one time too many then your entire document’s window history will go back instead of the frame!

Massive problems will surface if you rely on these functions with multiple dynamically created frames.

Akou dou bellou bou sou lei... :wink:
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:16 pm

look gr you are wasting your time. search browser market is all full. you have a good opporotunity to make some money here. the maps in northern cyprus are very inadequate. write an app which will give you directions in the north and you will make your million. soon there weill be a million visitors to the north each year.


now there is an oporotunity ripe for picking.


either that or join your buddies kuru and dt at the 31 competiton in south nicosia. you will come first second and third.
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:25 pm

What is a ....browser ? :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Classic Browser feedback...

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:26 pm

miltiades wrote:What is a ....browser ? :lol: :lol:

sorry i forgot milti, he cant attend on account that he is too old.

btw here is a definition of browse

to eat, nibble at, or feed on (leaves, tender shoots, or other soft vegetation)
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