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Lavrov drops the bombshell: US-brokered ceasefires are bogus

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:03 pm

Lavrov drops the bombshell: US-brokered ceasefires are bogus & now off the table

Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov made history today at the UN's meeting of the Security Council, declaring that future unilateral pauses couched as 'ceasefire agreements' are off the table. He has skillfully referred to the mounting factual evidence of the US's continued flagrant violations on any number of points of agreement over the course of this conflict.

These include primarily the violations of the ceasefire itself, in conjunction with officially leaked elements of the 'secret text' of the recent ceasefire which evidence that the US has been unable to reign in a number of groups signing onto previous ceasefires, let alone those groups the US claims to be moderates but did not sign onto the ceasefire, both of which continue to work closely with either ISIS or Jabat Al-Nusra. Russia has no doubt pointed out successfully that several of these groups are fictional entities, and are but operational synonyms of Al-Nusra (formerly called Al-Qaeda of the Levant), itself.

The impossible to ignore context here naturally is the ceasefire ending US joint attack alongside ISIS upon the Syrian Arab Army position at Deir ez-Zor which was sustained and lasted over an hour, despite calls from the Russian coordinating hotline which existed pursuant to standing agreements on deconfliction.

The other defining circumstances included the response of the US State Department at the emergency session of the UN Security Council a few nights ago, in particular the behaviour and callously undiplomatic remarks of representative Power, and the US's following attempts to blame Russia for the attack on the Red Crescent aid convoy several days later, which increasingly appears as the result of either Al-Nusra militants on the ground or a US predator drone attack using an incendiary device.

Analysts and activists have long debated the utility of the ceasefire agreements. It had been noted, at times passionately, that the ceasefires were observed unilaterally by Russia and had the effect of allowing the US backed terrorist groups, whether organized under the 'moderate' banner or not, to rearm and regroup. Aid convoys had long been used as a backdoor to smuggle in needed dual-use basic supplies for repairing weapons, such as nuts, bolts, wiring - and even munitions and new weapons. It had long been documented that first aid and medicines intended for affected civilian populations generally wound up used by terrorist fighting groups inside of occupied parts of Aleppo.

Now this chapter comes to end, and it is revealed that Russia understood clearly all along that this was precisely the case. What was needed was a pretext, a consensus building show-and-tell to the Security Council which provides Russia and its allies on the Security Council and in the international community that 'we tried Ceasefires - and this is what happened.

This set up the footwork for the final proverbial 'flying mare' that launched US foreign policy and its media hologram over the Russian bear's shoulder and onto its back.

A real corner has been turned. We invite our readers to watch twitter user Navsteva's several minute long clip, below, which was truly the highlight of the longer Russian presentation and today's historic Security Council meeting.

These are truly interesting times, fraught with danger, as the chance of total war looms overhead. We ask our readers to be especially vigilant as events are escalating, and help our important mission and work here by sharing these articles across your social networking platforms.

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Postby Robin Hood » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:01 pm

He is only saying openly, in the UN what has been very obvious since the Russians entered this US fiasco. (Another one?) It was a war for Regime Change from the moment the US got involved (2011?).

Just after the US attack on the Syrian army which killed over 60 and injured over a hundred more, I posted a report I came across that has not appeared in either the Western MSM or the Russian/Asian MSM. The Russians killed 30 US coalition intelligence people they knew were in Aleppo and directing the terrorists attacks from a 'secret' Intelligence Centre. I think the Russians have taken the gloves off!

I am guessing but I think maybe the Russians have sent a message, loud and clear to the US and its partners in crime ......’We too can play your silly games!’ If the story is true, and so far I have not seen any leaks to support it, then maybe the US coalition will respect the Russian ability to respond, with a bit less hubris and a lot more humility. The Russian Bear is waking from its slumber!

Paphitis , warn your friends to ..... be afraid ..... be very afraid!!!!! :? :o
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:54 pm

30 Intelligence Officers Including Israelis Killed in Russia Missile Attack in Aleppo
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1864011
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Postby Robin Hood » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:04 am

Get Real! wrote:30 Intelligence Officers Including Israelis Killed in Russia Missile Attack in Aleppo
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1864011


This I think, is the same story? They don't quote the source ..... it needs some sort of 'official' confirmation, but it is understandable why neither side wants it splashed all over the headlines.

Lavrof is correct in what he says ..... Kerry confirms it! Nothing geopolitical in this just a simple statement from Kerry proving that the US is not trying to defeat Deash ...... they are protecting them: (as well as arming them!)

In Kerry's Own Words: Syria Prohibited from Attacking al-Qaeda - By Daniel McAdams

Kerry argued at the UN that it would be impossible to separate Washington's "moderates" from al-Qaeda while al-Qaeda was under attack:

Now, I have said to Russia many times it’s very hard to separate people when they are being bombed indiscriminately and when Assad has the right to determine who he’s going to bomb, because he can, quote, 'go after Nusrah' but go after the opposition at the same time because he wants to.”

Does this make any sense? It seems much more logical to argue that the threat of being bombed alongside al-Qaeda would be the greatest incentive for "moderates" to separate themselves from al-Qaeda as soon as possible!

You would think Washington would tell its "moderates": You must cease and desist from fighting alongside al-Qaeda in Syria within the next 48 hours or you will yourselves become targets of Syrian, Russian, and coalition planes.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e45546.htm

Common sense kicks in .......”It seems much more logical to argue that the threat of being bombed alongside al-Qaeda would be the greatest incentive for "moderates" to separate themselves from al-Qaeda as soon as possible!”

“Does this make any sense?”


It does to me! :roll: :|
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Postby Maximus » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:01 am

While this is all happeneing, the two faced Turks have invaded Syria with the pretext of fighting Daesh/ISIS. Erdogan was at the UN general assembly telling the world that his incursion in to Syria had brought "peace, balance and stability in a region taken over by hopelessness". We know its bollox.

Russia is soon going to be bombing the devil out of them. Watch this space.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:04 am

Yes we know the ceasefire was bogus.

Aid was suppose to be allowed through as well but the Russians bombed a UN Convoy instead.

End of ceasefire right there. BUT, The Hague is waiting for Assad.

We can all go if you want to the Havue holding Assad's hand, but only one will be convicted.

Btw, can anyone parade these Mossad agents supposedly captured. I am intrigued! Oh I'm sorry! They were allegedly killed. Of course they were! :lol:

Oh and it just so happened that all these Western Intelligence Officers were standing all in the one place waiting for that missile to knock them off with no survivors! Mmmmmm, very interesting. Meanwhile a little 4 year old girl is pulled from the rubble of her home. Mmmmmmm, very interesting!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And how would Iran know who they killed? Did they go inside Aleppo? Mmmmmm, very interesting.

I'm not denying that there may be intelligence people in Aleppo. Israeli, unlikely but Coalition possibly. But the fact that 30 of them were all together during one missile strike! :lol:

Seriously dudes! How many intelligence officers are required to change a light globe or control a drone? 30 obviously! :lol:

All our Intelligence people are Arabic btw and fluent in Arabic.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:33 am

Guys, please kindly fill out this online questionnaire and let me know when you have finished so I can send to the Anyhropology Department.

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Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:48 am

Paphitis:
Yes we know the ceasefire was bogus.


Nice to see that you recognised that Assad and Russia complied but many of the coalition’s terrorists didn’t. Lavrof gave the UN the evidence ..... could even list which groups they were that never even recognised the ‘ceasefire’ let alone complied with it.

Aid was suppose to be allowed through as well but the Russians bombed a UN Convoy instead.


The convoy was held up because the ‘moderate’ terrorists said they would attack it. After some days they then decided to let it through and then attacked it with petrol bombs when it was inside a rebel held area .... and then blamed it on high explosives dropped by Russia.

End of ceasefire right there. BUT, The Hague is waiting for Assad.


There are plenty of Western leaders in the queue long before they get round to talking to Assad.

We can all go if you want to the Havue holding Assad's hand, but only one will be convicted
.

You still have to prove the accusations and so far have failed to come up with any evidence that withstands anymore than a cursory glance!

Btw, can anyone parade these Mossad agents supposedly captured. I am intrigued! Oh I'm sorry! They were allegedly killed. Of course they were!

Oh and it just so happened that all these Western Intelligence Officers were standing all in the one place waiting for that missile to knock them off with no survivors! Mmmmmm, very interesting.


All being in one place.’ Is what Control and Command Centres are all about ........ I would have thought you would know that being Operations Director an’all! :roll: :lol:

Meanwhile a little 4 year old girl is pulled from the rubble of her home. Mmmmmmm, very interesting!


By the ‘White Helmets’ of course. That little girl must be fed up by now with getting covered in dust and then ‘dug up’ for the White Helmet camera crew to film for BBC, CNN, SKY etc ! :roll:

And how would Iran know who they killed? Did they go inside Aleppo? Mmmmmm, very interesting.


How did Iran get into this equation? Don’t tell me .... your AWAC’s saw them launch a missile from a back garden in a suburb of Tehran, tracked it all the way to Syria and saw it drop onto the lorries........ and you have the evidence to prove it .... but can’t disclose it, because its ‘secret’! ? Did the US/NATO go into Aleppo? .... oh, I forgot, they’ve got the ‘moderate terrorists’, White Helmets and the tee shirt salesman’s informants (who are also ’secret’) to do the investigating and come up with the ‘irrefutable’ evidence! :roll:

I'm not denying that there may be intelligence people in Aleppo. Israeli, unlikely but Coalition possibly. But the fact that 30 of them were all together during one missile strike!

Seriously dudes! How many intelligence officers are required to change a light globe or control a drone? 30 obviously!


You are so dumb! See previous remark on ............. Control and Command Centre! Maybe that’s why you Aussies make so many mistakes when giving targeting information, you have one in the C&C centre answering the phone and changing the light bulbs ,and the rest are in the local bar! You are obviously speaking from vast experience. :lol:

All our Intelligence people are Arabic btw and fluent in Arabic.


I doubt that. There are very few 'intelligent' Arab's .... and they mostly work in financial services! If you work with the Yanks, they are likely to understand only US English, they are as bad as the British for that ...... or maybe Spanish as they employ a lot of cheap illegal Mexican immigrants to do the dirty work at home.


BTW: If you look very carefully at the original post about this attack ...... unlike you I did not claim it as Gospel ...... I said I had no other verification that this had happened, but could understand why it would not be released in the press and why both sides would wish to keep it very quiet. I have still seen no ‘official’ mention anywhere. :roll: :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:00 pm

They are all Arabic.

Even our entire SAS is fluent in Arabic. Pilots as well are trained to level 3 Arabic - enough to communicate and get out of trouble.

SAS are put through a 6 month course where all they do is learn Arabic for 8 hours a day then train for another few hours before bedtime.

Anyway, just complete the questionnaire. I reckon we will need to stuff you when dead as well. :mrgreen:

Don't worry, our Intelkigence Officers don't have blonde hair or blue eyes. No equal opportunity in Intelligence. And chances are, they can never even be associated with the Coalition countries. No badge either.

You guys watch too many Bond movies! :mrgreen:

And the fact that 30 of them were having a convention before they were wiped out is laughable. :lol:

Our intelligence people are more likely to be individuals who blend in with the local people, are on the quiet side, probably skinny and four-eyed with pimples but extremely intelligent and well trained in the tactics they deploy.

Bit like a sleeper that looks more like a computer geek than a sex God who knows 10 forms of Kung Fu. :lol:

It's the guy or gal (in Burqa Dress) you will least suspect.
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Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:They are all Arabic.

Even our entire SAS is fluent in Arabic. Pilots as well are trained to level 3 Arabic - enough to communicate and get out of trouble.

SAS are put through a 6 month course where all they do is learn Arabic for 8 hours a day then train for another few hours before bedtime.

Anyway, just complete the questionnaire. I reckon we will need to stuff you when dead as well. :mrgreen:

Don't worry, our Intelkigence Officers don't have blonde hair or blue eyes. No equal opportunity in Intelligence. And chances are, they can never even be associated with the Coalition countries. No badge either.

You guys watch too many Bond movies! :mrgreen:

And the fact that 30 of them were having a convention before they were wiped out is laughable. :lol:

Our intelligence people are more likely to be individuals who blend in with the local people, are on the quiet side, probably skinny and four-eyed with pimples but extremely intelligent and well trained in the tactics they deploy.

Bit like a sleeper that looks more like a computer geek than a sex God who knows 10 forms of Kung Fu. :lol:

It's the guy or gal (in Burqa Dress) you will least suspect.


Well ..... I suppose you, being one of them, would know such things! I think it is you who reads too many books and watched too many 'Bond' type videos.
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