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[Paphitis]

What masses?

Atheism is growing worldwide. They even exist in the most mom secular states, even under threat of death.

Atheists exist even among the baptized and even within the Islamic World and growing fast at an unprecedented level.

These days, knowledge and philosophy is at everyone's fingertips. People are able to explore within seconds and make their own minds up.

The old days of faith without question are long gone!

Irrelevant baloney.

Not irrelevant at all.

The masses have not decided on God. That was in the past.

Now, we have moved on and the masses just aren't buying without any evidence!

[Get Real!]

What masses?

Atheism is growing worldwide. They even exist in the most mom secular states, even under threat of death.

Atheists exist even among the baptized and even within the Islamic World and growing fast at an unprecedented level.

These days, knowledge and philosophy is at everyone's fingertips. People are able to explore within seconds and make their own minds up.

The old days of faith without question are long gone!

Irrelevant baloney.

Not irrelevant at all.

The masses have not decided on God. That was in the past.

Now, we have moved on and the masses just aren't buying without any evidence!

Gobbledygook!

[Pyrpolizer]

Sure, he can never change the fact that you just created an IMAGINARY variable that you called "God" just like mathematicians created an endless series of IMAGINARY numbers on the assumption that negative numbers should have square roots just like the positive ones. Mathematicians are honest enough though to call those numbers 'i" standing for "imaginary". Now be equally honest and call your God variable "i" GR, will you?

You can use whichever symbol or word you like but the masses have already decided on “GOD”.

If you want to change the label go start your global campaign.

So which part of using a variable to represent a unknown, don’t you understand?

It seems to me that's you who refuses to understand that your variable is just an IMAGINARY thing!
You are free to be with the masses, just like I am free to distant myself from those fools

No, you are NOT free to deny that the universe has a source which you can label as "nameless" for all I care.

Of course I can deny it by just following the most recent scientific theories.According to the uncertainty principle as well as Einstein's relativity theory everything is related to an observer. No observer=no time=no space= nothing. when you die there will be no time, no space no universe for you.The same actually happens when you are asleep and it's true for your individual self only.
Therefore my hypothesis is that everything is just in our imagination while we are awake....
I could attach variables to my hypothesis and call them NOTHINGNESS and nobody could ever prove me wrong while at the same time i would be no different than those fools who believe in God.

[Paphitis]

What masses?

Atheism is growing worldwide. They even exist in the most mom secular states, even under threat of death.

Atheists exist even among the baptized and even within the Islamic World and growing fast at an unprecedented level.

These days, knowledge and philosophy is at everyone's fingertips. People are able to explore within seconds and make their own minds up.

The old days of faith without question are long gone!

Irrelevant baloney.

Not irrelevant at all.

The masses have not decided on God. That was in the past.

Now, we have moved on and the masses just aren't buying without any evidence!

Gobbledygook!

What is gobbledygook is you preaching your stupid views on everyone else especially when your views are some constructed hair brain wave associating the trigger for the creation of the universe with some superior being.

You might as well join Scientology and await for the Alien Creator to descend in his UFO!

[Paphitis]

Sure, he can never change the fact that you just created an IMAGINARY variable that you called "God" just like mathematicians created an endless series of IMAGINARY numbers on the assumption that negative numbers should have square roots just like the positive ones. Mathematicians are honest enough though to call those numbers 'i" standing for "imaginary". Now be equally honest and call your God variable "i" GR, will you?

You can use whichever symbol or word you like but the masses have already decided on “GOD”.

If you want to change the label go start your global campaign.

So which part of using a variable to represent a unknown, don’t you understand?

It seems to me that's you who refuses to understand that your variable is just an IMAGINARY thing!
You are free to be with the masses, just like I am free to distant myself from those fools

No, you are NOT free to deny that the universe has a source which you can label as "nameless" for all I care.

Of course I can deny it by just following the most recent scientific theories.According to the uncertainty principle as well as Einstein's relativity theory everything is related to an observer. No observer=no time=no space= nothing. when you die there will be no time, no space no universe for you.The same actually happens when you are asleep and it's true for your individual self only.
Therefore my hypothesis is that everything is just in our imagination while we are awake....
I could attach variables to my hypothesis and call them NOTHINGNESS and nobody could ever prove me wrong while at the same time i would be no different than those fools who believe in God.

No one can prove you wrong over some unknown variables except Get Real of course who has virtually created his own occult in his own per brain to explain the unknowns.

That is what religion does. It tries to explain all the unknowns with an invented supreme being just like Get Real's invented beliefs that somehow the source for the universe is evidence that this being or power exists and at the same time actually gives a fuck about our existence. I don't think so.

Science makes no such claims. It doesn't invent utter stupidity, just some theories for things yet to be explained but it strives to put these theories to the test and then develop more theories and ideas to put to the test. This is what our curious nature is all about. Even in 10,000 years our science will still strive to make new discoveries.

Only 100 years ago, we couldn't even fly. Now we are sending space craft to the outer reaches of our solar system. What we accomplish in the next 100 years is anyone's guess but our technology and development is speeding up as we go along at unprecedented never seen before levels. We are literally becoming God as we can clone and grow stem cells.

We are God until we discover a more intelligent life form. That is not impossible either but until then...

[Pyrpolizer]

No one can prove you wrong over some unknown variables except Get Real of course who has virtually created his own occult in his own per brain to explain the unknowns.

That is what religion does. It tries to explain all the unknowns with an invented supreme being just like Get Real's invented beliefs that somehow the source for the universe is evidence that this being or power exists and at the same time actually gives a fuck about our existence. I don't think so.

I agree with you. The funny thing is the social code of behavior that every religion attaches to "God". Part of it is OK, but praying like crazy 5 times a day, begging him for mercy and all those nonsense.. there are millionaires who go to church every Sunday and do charities trying to buy the afterlife and next day they fire a guy because of poor performance at work...Such a hypocrisy...
I acknowledge the fact that religion saves a lot of people who instead of committing suicide, or becoming totally insane they become priests or imams or monks

[Get Real!]

Of course I can deny it by just following the most recent scientific theories.According to the uncertainty principle as well as Einstein's relativity theory everything is related to an observer. No observer=no time=no space= nothing. when you die there will be no time, no space no universe for you.The same actually happens when you are asleep and it's true for your individual self only.
Therefore my hypothesis is that everything is just in our imagination while we are awake....
I could attach variables to my hypothesis and call them NOTHINGNESS and nobody could ever prove me wrong while at the same time i would be no different than those fools who believe in God.

Claptrap! You people are the daftest bunch I’ve ever come across.

What I’ve given you is PERFECT LOGIC that CANNOT be contested so you are wasting your time.

1. Anyone with an ounce of brain KNOWS that the universe is there and it cannot be contested.

2. Anyone with an ounce of brain KNOWS that something is responsible for the universe being there, and that cannot be contest either.

So all that is left is for us humans to NAME this “thing” that is responsible for the universe, so that we may all know what we’re talking abut when referring to it.

And that NAME is “GOD”.

And it’s as simple as that… and I have NO IDEA why this word makes so many of you sweat under the collar but you are very funny!

[Paphitis]

No one can prove you wrong over some unknown variables except Get Real of course who has virtually created his own occult in his own per brain to explain the unknowns.

That is what religion does. It tries to explain all the unknowns with an invented supreme being just like Get Real's invented beliefs that somehow the source for the universe is evidence that this being or power exists and at the same time actually gives a fuck about our existence. I don't think so.

I agree with you. The funny thing is the social code of behavior that every religion attaches to "God". Part of it is OK, but praying like crazy 5 times a day, begging him for mercy and all those nonsense.. there are millionaires who go to church every Sunday and do charities trying to buy the afterlife and next day they fire a guy because of poor performance at work...Such a hypocrisy...
I acknowledge the fact that religion saves a lot of people who instead of committing suicide, or becoming totally insane they become priests or imams or monks

If these millionaires were truly believers of this Supreme Being as described in the Bible and in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ, then they would donate most of their wealth to the needy or the less fortunate, destitute, homeless and drug addicted. They don't. Even the meagre amounts they do donate is mostly not altruistic, but to big note themselves and for publicity.

However, even our biggest and loudest believers in the teachings of Jesus Christ are among the most wealthy in Cyprus and they do not donate the majority of their wealth to the needy.

Therefore, many only use the Church for attention but do not believe the teachings because they do not practice these teachings.

As a result, their non belief is as good as mine. I'm just not a hypocrite about it.

[Paphitis]

Btw, if Get Real was such a believer, he wouldn't be so worried about his mortgage.

He is as Atheistic as they come. He just doesn't know it yet!

[Pyrpolizer]

Of course I can deny it by just following the most recent scientific theories.According to the uncertainty principle as well as Einstein's relativity theory everything is related to an observer. No observer=no time=no space= nothing. when you die there will be no time, no space no universe for you.The same actually happens when you are asleep and it's true for your individual self only.
Therefore my hypothesis is that everything is just in our imagination while we are awake....
I could attach variables to my hypothesis and call them NOTHINGNESS and nobody could ever prove me wrong while at the same time i would be no different than those fools who believe in God.

Claptrap! You people are the daftest bunch I’ve ever come across.

What I’ve given you is PERFECT LOGIC that CANNOT be contested so you are wasting your time.

1. Anyone with an ounce of brain KNOWS that the universe is there and it cannot be contested.

2. Anyone with an ounce of brain KNOWS that something is responsible for the universe being there, and that cannot be contest either.

So all that is left is for us humans to NAME this “thing” that is responsible for the universe, so that we may all know what we’re talking abut when referring to it.

And that NAME is “GOD”.

And it’s as simple as that… and I have NO IDEA why this word makes so many of you sweat under the collar but you are very funny!

Your logic is inconsistent. Assuming that the universe exists, and everything that exists has a source and that source is God,then what's the source of God? Other Gods?

Imo the theory that nothing exists, is more consistent. It doesn't need any God,it just assumes that zero has the property of splitting itself to +ve and -ve in an endless manner, and all these die back to zero.