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Re: So much for Western democracy/free speech!

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:16 am

Could the Clown have anything to do with this?
He, The Clown, will go down in British history as the first ...Clown to become the foreign secretary!!
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Re: So much for Western democracy/free speech!

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:02 am

miltiades wrote:Apart from its support of the islamist jihadis has the coalition achieved anything at all in Syria thus far? Russia has.

You are telling us all that you support the aims of Saudi Arabia and Turkey, that says a great deal !!

Assad will survive, the coalition has failed miserably , as for war crimes , propaganda exists on all sides. Only Assad can bring stability and peace to Syria. Can you name just one leading individual that would be capable of uniting Syria and putting an end to this dreadful conflict ?

There are more than one hundred islamist groups involved in this war. Which group has a prominent leader able to bring peace and stability to Syria. You do not know and neither does the coalition.


The coalition does not support any Jihadists!

You know my number. Call it and I will put you over to my wife for a right royal dressing down.

There are 52 groups according to the Coalition and most are Sunni Muslim.

You are witnessing one of the biggest sectarian wars in human history and to top it all off, sectarian cleansing on a grand scale that has never before seen since the holocaust of WW2. These are war crimes.

And we take no part of it. The coalition has had the correct policies all along. To support Assad against all Sunnis will mean we side with Iran and Shia Muslims. They are not innocent. To side with the Sunnis will mean we are with Sunnis but against the Shia. We are with no one. We support a political solution. Assad and Pootin do not. They want a military solution against 14 million Sunni Syrians.

The coalition has saved Iraq. Our policies are correct it would appear because we have achieved a political settlement where the Sunnis can live with the Shia and share their country together.

Assad/Pootin have failed and committed crimes along the way. Therefore, you will not here the end of it either.
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Re: So much for Western democracy/free speech!

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Apart from its support of the islamist jihadis has the coalition achieved anything at all in Syria thus far? Russia has.

You are telling us all that you support the aims of Saudi Arabia and Turkey, that says a great deal !!

Assad will survive, the coalition has failed miserably , as for war crimes , propaganda exists on all sides. Only Assad can bring stability and peace to Syria. Can you name just one leading individual that would be capable of uniting Syria and putting an end to this dreadful conflict ?

There are more than one hundred islamist groups involved in this war. Which group has a prominent leader able to bring peace and stability to Syria. You do not know and neither does the coalition.


Pahitis:

The coalition does not support any Jihadists!

You know my number. Call it and I will put you over to my wife for a right royal dressing down.

There are 52 groups according to the Coalition and most are Sunni Muslim.

You are witnessing one of the biggest sectarian wars in human history and to top it all off, sectarian cleansing on a grand scale that has never before seen since the holocaust of WW2. These are war crimes.

And we take no part of it. The coalition has had the correct policies all along. To support Assad against all Sunnis will mean we side with Iran and Shia Muslims. They are not innocent. To side with the Sunnis will mean we are with Sunnis but against the Shia. We are with no one. We support a political solution. Assad and Pootin do not. They want a military solution against 14 million Sunni Syrians.

The coalition has saved Iraq. Our policies are correct it would appear because we have achieved a political settlement where the Sunnis can live with the Shia and share their country together.

Assad/Pootin have failed and committed crimes along the way. Therefore, you will not here the end of it either.

That is a load of self opinionated garbage ..... as usual presented without single link to some source that presents some facts .... however tenuous!

As you have bought the credentials of your wife into this presumably to support your wild ramblings? You posted:

"I'm sorry but my wife is a Real Dr in Philosophy. She is an International Politics expert focusing on refugees and migration of people from War Zones. She started with Cyprus, then Bosnia and now Syria and Iraq.

She has a far greater insight into Syria than all of you combined and is now working on Syria and Iraq. She is especially focusing on Kurds of Iraq, Syria and Turkey and collaborating with another very esteemed person. And she is held in high regard within Government and known to the top echelons of policy makers.

It takes a lot to build credibility in Academia, and this Marcus is going about it the wrong way."


You also stated that she was so well regarded that her research is 'bankrolled' by the Government. This says she is NOT an independent journalist.

To get any form of professional recognition in the fields you say your wife has expertise, you have to have produced some paper/article/thesis/written a book, against which the level expertise can be judged. The same would go for her 'esteemed colleague'

As such a well respected expert I would be very interested to read your wife's articles on the subject, there must be many as she is so well regarded at the highest echelons of Government. And the same for her colleague. Just to demonstrate that you are not all full of hot air with no substance and making claims that are unsubstantiated.......... can you post some links to support your claim that she actually has the reputation you credit her with? It should be common knowledge.

Your response will ratify your claim, that she agrees with you or not! Not too difficult to provide .... is it? :roll:
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Re: So much for Western democracy/free speech!

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:58 pm

NAT WEST has backed down! suggestions are that May intervened or, far more likely ..... all the Russian Billionaires and millionaires saw the writing on the wall and started withdrawing all their money.

Oooop's ...... someones promotion prospects just took a hammering! :oops: :lol: :lol:
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