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Best if Cyprus was returned to the Hellenic Nation to avoid refugees created in 1974.


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Yes, that's the most merciful overall solution.
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No, the Turks deserve a piece of Cyprus.
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No, the Brits should have kept all of Cyprus.
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20%
 
Paphitis
 
Total votes : 5

Re: What if ....

Postby Cap » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:29 pm

Zenon33 wrote:Cyprus is cypriot, not greek or turk.
We want to live in a free country.


Nailed it Zenon.
Enough of the the 3rd world Banana Brothers.
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Re: What if ....

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:22 am

What a stupid poll! fishing for a particular result no doubt but no credibility.

What ever happened to the option: Cyprus is Cypriot!!!!!

But since the options are as they are, I will have to lean towards the following:

The Brits should have kept all of Cyprus!

Until Cypriots have the maturity to accept self rule and not do stupid things.
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Re: What if ....

Postby Sotos » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:09 am

There should have been a referendum to let the Cypriot people democratically decide what they want for their own island. It is clear that if that was done the overwhelming majority would have voted for union with Greece while any alternatives were not a result of the will of Cypriots but a result of force and blackmail by the Turks and the British who wanted pieces of Cyprus for their own interests.
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Re: What if ....

Postby Sotos » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:15 am

What ever happened to the option: Cyprus is Cypriot!!!!!


The Brits should have kept all of Cyprus!


You contradict yourself. Cyprus is Cypriot which is exactly why it is the Cypriots who should decide where their own island should belong and not the British. It is the same with Scotland, which is Scottish, and it is up to the Scottish to decide if they will be part of the UK or not. A referendum would clearly be the most democratic and peaceful thing to do... those who are against this are clearly against democracy and against the principle that Cyprus is Cypriot.
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Re: What if ....

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:17 am

Sotos wrote:There should have been a referendum to let the Cypriot people democratically decide what they want for their own island. It is clear that if that was done the overwhelming majority would have voted for union with Greece while any alternatives were not a result of the will of Cypriots but a result of force and blackmail by the Turks and the British who wanted pieces of Cyprus for their own interests.


most people were illiterate back in the day as opposed to 2016.

So what gives them the right to be making such decisions and condemning us to a basket case?

Hold the referendum today and the result would be different. I put it down to education.
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Re: What if ....

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:18 am

Sotos wrote:
What ever happened to the option: Cyprus is Cypriot!!!!!


The Brits should have kept all of Cyprus!


You contradict yourself. Cyprus is Cypriot which is exactly why it is the Cypriots who should decide where their own island should belong and not the British. It is the same with Scotland, which is Scottish, and it is up to the Scottish to decide if they will be part of the UK or not. A referendum would clearly be the most democratic and peaceful thing to do... those who are against this are clearly against democracy and against the principle that Cyprus is Cypriot.


I said I was leaning towards that option in the face of inadequate options because the most important one of all was deliberately left out making this poll contrived!
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Re: What if ....

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:31 am

Sotos wrote:There should have been a referendum to let the Cypriot people democratically decide what they want for their own island. It is clear that if that was done the overwhelming majority would have voted for union with Greece while any alternatives were not a result of the will of Cypriots but a result of force and blackmail by the Turks and the British who wanted pieces of Cyprus for their own interests.

So had such a daft referendum taken place and won, were the Turkish Cypriots, Armenians, and Maronites to "receive" Greek ethnicity and declared Greeks? :lol:

Or maybe called "Turkish Cypriots of Greece"? :lol:

How about an even fancier name like… "Former Ottoman Turkish Cypriots of Greece pending Hellenization"? :lol:
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Re: What if ....

Postby miltiades » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:12 am

No one can deny the connection that G/Cs have with Greece , similarly the connection that T/Cs have with Turkey.

The connection however we G/Cs have with our T/C compatriots in more ways than one is also of paramount importance.
We live on the same island, for hundreds of years interaction between the two was peaceful , what separated us was not religion but the ugly head of " nationalism" which entered the play in the 50s. Cyprus should be independent, all Cypriots should consider Cyprus as their one and only one motherland.

I have met hundreds of T/Cs over the years, I have stated before that I have yet to meet one who denies his Cypriot roots, I have yet to hear anyone that views Cyprus as either Turkish or Greek. We G/Cs , do not have to sever our close relations with Greece and neither do the T/Cs with Turkey. We can live together as Cypriots as we did for hundreds of years.

May I also say that having had a T/C in my family for over 40 years has more than helped me to understand the "Cypriotness " of the T/Cs, their concerns, fears, aspirations and their wish to live on the island in peace and stability.
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Re: What if ....

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:40 am

I think it's gone whoooooshhh right over the head of some. :roll:

The lack of empathy for the refugees that have (for now) lost their homes and properties, for the thousands dead and missing from the 1974 Turkish invasion and for the rest of us who knew Cyprus whole (although, never really free) is shameful.

So brainwashed are some to repeat the mantra "Cyprus is Cypriot" that they would rather act as if they were supporting a football team then think deeply what could have been saved if the Colonialists did not sow the seeds for us to lose all this to the Turks by keeping us away from the safe haven of the Hellenic Nation.

To undo history and instead have had a healthy Cypriot population living over our whole island as we have done for thousands of years, the many dead and missing still living among us, speaking Greek, using the many churches we have recently had destroyed by ISIS-Turks etc etc etc .... all this some would rather not have and they prefer what did happen just so that they can say "Cyprus is Cypriot". Shame on you! As if each and every Greek island cannot still to this day - freely - say "Crete is Cretan", or "Kephalonia is Kephalonian" or "Ithaca is Ithacan".
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Re: What if ....

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:52 am

fact of the matter is that such symbology only divides the island. These are the obstacles to unification since the TCs can simply say they want to be Turkish and are Turkish.

hence the importance that Cyprus heads in a different direction. We are Cypriots. most people I know don't have a lot of respect for Greece.

unlike myself, who actually adores Greece much more than Cyprus in fact. Why? because the people are great, its a beautiful country and I really dig and enjoy the lifestyle and unique manner in which they view life. but for these great qualities Greeks actually have, they also have many fatal flaws which has turned them into a basket case. Cypriots don't have these fatal flaws as much as the Greeks and neither do they live life like Greeks do in my opinion.

Every time I go to Cyprus, i can't wait to leave the place, because the less time i spend in Cyprus and go through the motions, the more time I spend in Greece. true story. put it this way! Greece is the girl everyone wants, but Cyprus is the girl you should marry. 2 different countries and 2 different people!

Cypriots are different. Different people altogether. and as I said, there are many aspects which make me prefer Greeks as a people as a result of it, but in other cases Cypriots.
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