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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:Oh and btw, its pretty sick that you have displayed so much hatred for the West that you would actually go against your own people, your own country, and wish upon it total and complete annihilation.

It's in the best interests of my country (Cyprus) that the filthy criminal West is utterly annihilated with no chance of recovery.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh and btw, its pretty sick that you have displayed so much hatred for the West that you would actually go against your own people, your own country, and wish upon it total and complete annihilation.

It's in the best interests of my country (Cyprus) that the filthy criminal West is utterly annihilated with no chance of recovery.


Cyprus would be the first to beg that this wasn't the case once they get done over by Russia and Turkey!

Have you spoken to Anastasiades about these so called Cypriot Interests?

I suggest you rethink that attitude. if America falls, so do many countries.

But thank fully, America is not alone.

You sound like Robin Hood, always threatening us with nuclear annihilation. Well, he posts pictures of SATAN ICBM's. how desperate?
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:02 am

...interesting, now the coalition is Donald Trump.

He will withdraw, as is his claim, he will build walls, he will fight so called IS alone if he has to, he will be drawn into coalitions where monetarily it can be demonstrated that America is not there to carry the rest.

NATO is on the table, too.

...it won't be hard for him to ignore what is State Policy, "it is awful", "the worst", etc., friendly efforts will be extended to all world Leaders, (including Putin, and Erdogan); something to think about.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:03 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...interesting, now the coalition is Donald Trump.

He will withdraw, as is his claim, he will build walls, he will fight so called IS alone if he has to, he will be drawn into coalitions where monetarily it can be demonstrated that America is not there to carry the rest.

NATO is on the table, too.

...it won't be hard for him to ignore what is State Policy, "it is awful", "the worst", etc., friendly efforts will be extended to all world Leaders, (including Putin, and Erdogan); something to think about.


he can't withdraw.

Everyone else will grab Trump by the Nuts if that happens, and 2 of those countries can make the US Financial markets collapse overnight to depression levels and has most of the worlds oil reserves.

He just can't do whatever he likes and abandon his alliance, because he will be also abandoning his sphere of influence as a superpower. no empire has ever done that, and the USA is no different. if someone wants to take over that sphere of influence, then the USA will have to be rolled by the other power and considering the fact that the USA is not alone but is joined with several other European and Asia Pacific nations, that's not going to be at all easy. They have too many friends who are good middle powers in their own right.

Trump also has the deep state to contend with. as with anything, you will see that all the things he said before the election, will just vanish into obscurity like normal, including things like the trillion dollars worth of tax cuts. he just said a lot of populist stuff to get elected basically, like most other politicians do.

The mexican wall will turn out to be a metaphoric word. in other words, the US will just enact laws already on its books with regard to illegal immigration into the USA. It will be a lot tougher.

probably, the Americans are going to adopt Australian Immigration policies and introduce them to the USA. In other words, if you come into the country illegally, you will never be allowed to settle. Something like that anyway. They will take the persons details and they will be banned from entering the country under any Visa like they do for convicted felons. No need for a physical wall like what was in Berlin.

As far as NATO is concerned, he just stated that Countries are not meeting their alliance obligations, and that this will have to change. In other words, minimum expenditures if america is going to be offering its Military to assist at the expence of American tax payers. Its a fair stance too.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:21 am

Paphitis:
he can't withdraw.


He won’t but as you have pointed out he will make those that require US protection, which is what we are talking about, pay for it. Like , if Estonia. Latvia. Lithuania want US forces to protect them with a physical presence ....... here’s the charge out rates! It’s called doing business! Trump is a business man.

Everyone else will grab Trump by the Nuts if that happens, and 2 of those countries can make the US Financial markets collapse overnight to depression levels and has most of the worlds oil reserves.


Everyone else will do what is in their best interests and peeing in the face of the Eagle is not a good idea. You don’t threaten .... or haven’t you learned that lesson yet ..... you negotiate! Trump is a business man.

He just can't do whatever he likes and abandon his alliance, because he will be also abandoning his sphere of influence as a superpower. no empire has ever done that, and the USA is no different. if someone wants to take over that sphere of influence, then the USA will have to be rolled by the other power and considering the fact that the USA is not alone but is joined with several other European and Asia Pacific nations, that's not going to be at all easy. They have too many friends who are good middle powers in their own right.


I think you are in for a rude awakening! Most of these ‘other powers’ are, like the French, the Germans and the Australians ..... hangers on ! He will do it his way .... he is not a politician and, thank goodness, he is not a lawyer. Trump is a business man.

Trump also has the deep state to contend with. as with anything, you will see that all the things he said before the election, will just vanish into obscurity like normal, including things like the trillion dollars worth of tax cuts. he just said a lot of populist stuff to get elected basically, like most other politicians do.


You didn’t listen ....... ‘ Clear the swamp! ’. The elite and the establishment have been given a bloody nose, the people are fed up with them lining their pockets and creating a lot of forgotten Americans .... they have spoken.. They will comply, especially in foreign policy, or if they face him off .... it could be another US civil war ..... so my bet is on them having to back down to save their own skins. Trump is not a politician, He is a business man.

The mexican wall will turn out to be a metaphoric word. in other words, the US will just enact laws already on its books with regard to illegal immigration into the USA. It will be a lot tougher.


I think that could be true ..... he will tighten up at the border and on illegal immigrants. He knows the US needs immigrant labour. Trump is a business man.

probably, the Americans are going to adopt Australian Immigration policies and introduce them to the USA. In other words, if you come into the country illegally, you will never be allowed to settle. Something like that anyway. They will take the persons details and they will be banned from entering the country under any Visa like they do for convicted felons. No need for a physical wall like what was in Berlin.


I don’t think Australia, a country full of immigrants is any example to follow. The way Australia treats those seeking asylum is a borderline case of human rights violations. The US already has Guantanamo for the nut cases, I cant see him herding thousands of immigrants onto some remote Island.

As far as NATO is concerned, he just stated that Countries are not meeting their alliance obligations, and that this will have to change. In other words, minimum expenditures if america is going to be offering its Military to assist at the expence of American tax payers. Its a fair stance too.


He will assure all the members of NATO that collective defence will apply IF any member is attacked by a foreign power. So nothing in that context will change, but the US will shrink its military presence around the world (including Europe and the ME) and shut all but a few of their 800+ military bases and hopefully that will reduce the chance of Global hostilities.

He will continue the US commitment in Iraq, but he will pull out of the Syrian conflict and stop funding local terrorist groups. But first ...... he will talk with Putin and talk sensibly about where these perceived threats are coming from, just like JFK did with Kruschev in the 60’s. Trump is a business man.

Trump is not a corrupt, self serving politician ...... Trump is not a politically correct diplomat ..... Trump is not a greedy, corrupt lawyer .(Like the Clintons) ....... Trump is brash, boastful and pompous but with it, relatively down to earth and most of all he is practical .......... a hands on President. :roll:
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby miltiades » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:49 am

It appears that President elect Trump will pull out of Syria and reverse a dreadful mistake made by the Obama administration. That is when Syrian peace will be restored .

"The US politics expert said: “I think that he will pull the US out. It would be a signal to Russia that they own the playing field there.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... rica-world
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Zenon33 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:37 pm

miltiades wrote:It appears that President elect Trump will pull out of Syria and reverse a dreadful mistake made by the Obama administration. That is when Syrian peace will be restored .

"The US politics expert said: “I think that he will pull the US out. It would be a signal to Russia that they own the playing field there.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... rica-world





I hope you're right my friend.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby kurupetos » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:56 pm

It's coming boys and girls...

The final battle...

Turkey against Russia et al. :wink:
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:42 pm

kurupetos wrote:It's coming boys and girls...

The final battle...

Turkey against Russia et al. :wink:


Why are Pootin and Erdogan giving each other mutual gelatin then?

Do you mean they are both close to climax?
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:45 pm

miltiades wrote:It appears that President elect Trump will pull out of Syria and reverse a dreadful mistake made by the Obama administration. That is when Syrian peace will be restored .

"The US politics expert said: “I think that he will pull the US out. It would be a signal to Russia that they own the playing field there.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... rica-world


And you would be dreaming!

Express have a habit of quoting unnamed US Politics Experts.

The US has no intention of pulling out of the Coalition. If he did, he will be a Dead President Elect before he even takes office
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