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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon May 15, 2017 10:06 pm

...cheers Tim, so glad you are keeping us informed.
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue May 16, 2017 12:13 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...cheers Tim, so glad you are keeping us informed.


Well, it is my sad duty to report that Oğuz Güven was brought before a judge yesterday with his pre-trial detention on terrorism charges sought. Needless to say, the judge complied (had he not done so, he would most probably soon found himself among the large army of judges and prosecutors themselves imprisoned on terrorism charges), and Güven now founds himself among the growing band of employees of Cumhuriyet newspaper to be jailed awaiting trial on terrorism charges simply for reports carried by the newspaper, which supposedly aid the Fethullah Gülen organisation, an organisation that has since its inception been devoted to the overthrow of the secular republic and its replacement by an Islamist state, while Cumhuriyet newspaper has been the most steadfast supporter of the secular republic since it was founded.

The reason for his detention is a Tweet that was live for 55 seconds and used the verb in Turkish 'biçmek' which in the context it was used of somebody being run down by a lorry could be translated as 'mow down' and was then replaced using less dramatic language. Perhaps any Turkish speakers out there could advise me as to whether the use of that verb in this context is in any way objectionable, because it does not seem so to me and appears typical of the sort of language used in headlines in Turkey. If I am wrong, I will have to work to improve my Turkish.

Just to give an insight into the Kafkesque world of the legal system in Erdoğan's dictatorship, the judge seemingly came to the following conclusions about the use of this verb in his decision:

'noting that the expression ‘mowed down’ could be used from a journalistic point of view to add colour to a report, asserted that this expression had been particularly selected in the tweet on which the charges are based so as to create the perception in society as to what might subsequently befall those who draft indictments into FETO rather than for emphasis.'

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... e_law.html
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 17, 2017 5:56 am

...just as a matter of interest, it is in the same vain, in Cyprus, Afrika has been threatened with Prosecution, and questioned by the Police.

[10] Ankara's office of Chief Public Prosecutor requested an investigation for two journalists in the occupied area of Cyprus

Under the title "The octopus tentacles? have reached us", Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (14.05.17) on its front page, reported that upon request of Ankara's Office of Chief Public Prosecutor, there was an investigation of the police of the breakaway regime for an article that journalist Kubilay Ozkirac wrote in Afrika paper.
According to the paper, Kubilay Ozkiray, who is writing for Afrika newspaper, was called last week at the "police station" and was interrogated. The interrogation was launched due to a request from Ankara's Office of Chief Public Prosecutor regarding an article of Ozkirac published in Afrika on June 17, 2016, under the title "Views from Turkey".

Meanwhile, the paper further reports that upon a request again from Ankara's office of Chief Public Prosecutor in previous months, Afrika's journalist Sener Levent was also interrogated by the "police" for his article "The Kurds and us".

According to the column "A letter from 'Afrika'", two "police officers" went to Afrika paper the previous months and pressed a charge against Sener Levent, with instructions from Ankara. The crime was that he insulted Tayyip Erdogan in his article "The Kurds and us".

The column further wrote: "In which article of our penal code did they attribute this case? ? In the article to 'insult, humiliate and humble the elders of foreign states'? Don't they are ashamed of? Erdogan is our foreigner? From when do we have become foreigners for a Turkish President? I count him as our President and I accept him as such?

(?)

Is he not held accountable for all the incidents that occurred here?

Does not the ECHR always accept him as interlocutor?

I wonder if we should open a file against those who count him as foreigner.

(?)

You will understand that the situation got out of hand?

Besides, they say we do not have any more differences...

Besides, they say we are like 'inseparable'... (Translator's note: he uses a known phrase in Turkish, 'flesh and nail')...

Besides, we are also foreigners!

Is it possible?"

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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 17, 2017 5:56 am

...just as a matter of interest, it is in the same vain, in Cyprus, Afrika has been threatened with Prosecution, and questioned by the Police.

[10] Ankara's office of Chief Public Prosecutor requested an investigation for two journalists in the occupied area of Cyprus

Under the title "The octopus tentacles? have reached us", Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (14.05.17) on its front page, reported that upon request of Ankara's Office of Chief Public Prosecutor, there was an investigation of the police of the breakaway regime for an article that journalist Kubilay Ozkirac wrote in Afrika paper.
According to the paper, Kubilay Ozkiray, who is writing for Afrika newspaper, was called last week at the "police station" and was interrogated. The interrogation was launched due to a request from Ankara's Office of Chief Public Prosecutor regarding an article of Ozkirac published in Afrika on June 17, 2016, under the title "Views from Turkey".

Meanwhile, the paper further reports that upon a request again from Ankara's office of Chief Public Prosecutor in previous months, Afrika's journalist Sener Levent was also interrogated by the "police" for his article "The Kurds and us".

According to the column "A letter from 'Afrika'", two "police officers" went to Afrika paper the previous months and pressed a charge against Sener Levent, with instructions from Ankara. The crime was that he insulted Tayyip Erdogan in his article "The Kurds and us".

The column further wrote: "In which article of our penal code did they attribute this case? ? In the article to 'insult, humiliate and humble the elders of foreign states'? Don't they are ashamed of? Erdogan is our foreigner? From when do we have become foreigners for a Turkish President? I count him as our President and I accept him as such?

(?)

Is he not held accountable for all the incidents that occurred here?

Does not the ECHR always accept him as interlocutor?

I wonder if we should open a file against those who count him as foreigner.

(?)

You will understand that the situation got out of hand?

Besides, they say we do not have any more differences...

Besides, they say we are like 'inseparable'... (Translator's note: he uses a known phrase in Turkish, 'flesh and nail')...

Besides, we are also foreigners!

Is it possible?"

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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:20 am

The emergency meeting, however, produced another “shock.” CHP leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu — long under fire for being too soft and unable to galvanize the opposition — announced he was launching a protest march from Ankara to Istanbul and said anyone was welcome to join him. He named the protest the “Justice March.”

On June 15, thousands of people packed Ankara’s Kizilay Square, the starting point of the march. The protestors stood in silence, holding banners with a single word: "Justice." Kilicdaroglu, who arrived with his wife and son, dedicated the march to all people victimized by government policies, stressing it was “not only the CHP’s, but everybody’s march.” Brandishing his own “justice” banner, the 68-year-old then launched the 480-kilometer (300-mile), 23-day trek to Istanbul’s Maltepe Prison, where Berberoglu is incarcerated.

The crowd behind Kilicdaroglu included not only CHP lawmakers and party activists but also members of other parties, trade unions and civic society groups as well as thousands of ordinary citizens. Two figures stood out in the procession — Fatma Bostan Unsal, a now-estranged co-founder of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), and former AKP deputy Faruk Unsal. “There are two places where the people can raise their voice — the press and the street,” Faruk Unsal told Al-Monitor. “With the press completely under government control, we have [only] the street left for us.”

Marching next to Unsal was Cihangir Islam, a medical professor and a prominent political activist in Turkey’s conservative quarters. “I’m here for all oppressed and victimized people, for all academics who have been dismissed from their jobs,” he said, referring to massive purges in universities, the victims of which included himself.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... z4kmfs8SZ6


Not exactly on the subject but in relation to it; thousands plan to march from Istanbul to Ankara...
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby B25 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:31 am

You mean from Constantinople - Ankara????
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:53 pm

B25 wrote:You mean from Constantinople - Ankara????

How about from Lygos to Ankara, or to use a medieval Greek Name εἰς τὴν Πόλιν to Ankara?

Just wonder where Turks got the name Istanbul from...

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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby B25 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:39 pm

Who gives a f where they got it from, it's still Constantinople!
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