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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:51 pm

The fascists will burn Turkey before that letter from the CHP even circulates once through Erdogans numb skull..

In one ear and out the other.
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:42 pm

One of the people arrested during the protests against the unconsitutional remanding in custody of HDP members of parliament has suffered a broken spine at a police station while in police custody. Even though his spine is broken, some apology for a human being masquerading as a police officer in the service of Erdoğan's fascist dictatorship has still seen the need to handcuf him to his hospital bed.

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http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... l_bed.html
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:44 pm

Really? :o

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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:26 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:Its the people of the EU who have the anguri up their golo.

You said not too long ago, that not a single terrorists would enter Europe with the "refugees". How wrong was you?

What you support is tantamount to putting the angouri up our golo.


Doesn't look like it mate.

And I never said such a thing. how the hell would I know if there some terrorists among the refugees. no you misunderstood me. I said, and still adhere to, that there is no reason to give these refugees too much of a hard time just because you may think that about 0.001% of them are terrorists.

I was replying to your heartlessness!

The way things are going mate, I don't think any terrorists are gonna be interested in Europe, America or Australia. What the Coalition has achieved is absolute genius.


If I have time later, I might find that thread.
it would make interesting reading for you in retrospect because you might realize how wrong you was about all of it.


You can search all you want but I never said there were no terrorists among the refugees or that there were no bad people among them either.

I would have said the vast majority are decent poor human beings in despair and quite desperate.
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:25 am

Curious ... Luxembourg’s foreign minister has openly mooted imposing sanctions on the fascist regime in Turkey. Until recently, we didn’t hear as much as a ‘tut tut’ from any official Western source as the human rights and rule of law situation persistently deteriorated in the country. Has something changed? Is the new world order abandoning Erdoğan?

Luxembourg: Turkey purge comparable to Nazi tactics

Jean Asselborn has said that sanctions against Turkey may be in the cards if Ankara's purge of civil servants continues. He compared the government's strategy to Nazi Germany.


http://www.dw.com/en/luxembourg-turkey- ... a-36291261
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:45 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Curious ... Luxembourg’s foreign minister has openly mooted imposing sanctions on the fascist regime in Turkey. Until recently, we didn’t hear as much as a ‘tut tut’ from any official Western source as the human rights and rule of law situation persistently deteriorated in the country. Has something changed? Is the new world order abandoning Erdoğan?

Luxembourg: Turkey purge comparable to Nazi tactics

Jean Asselborn has said that sanctions against Turkey may be in the cards if Ankara's purge of civil servants continues. He compared the government's strategy to Nazi Germany.


http://www.dw.com/en/luxembourg-turkey- ... a-36291261


If the so called purge continues as mooted by erdogan involving more than 50,000 civil servants, military personnel, journalists etc and he re-introduces the Death penalty, then that would be something that can't be ignored.

There will be some kind of embargoes, probably involving military hardware to start off with including the delivery of ordered F-35 aircraft in order to pressure erdogan into backing down.

Sometimes its better to wait and see, and use diplomatic channels and only act when it is completely necessary.

And yes, everyone knows that the purge is highly disgusting. As time presses on, we will hear more and more from other countries including the EU, USA and so on.
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:28 am

Purge? If it were a purge of the Gulenists and all of those involved in the coup attempt, I would stand four square behind it. That is not what is going on at all. There is now a full-frontal assault using the powers available under the state of emergency that the attempted coup made possible to remove the last vestiges of opposition to Erdoğan's fascist dictatorship in the country.
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:32 am

There is a very long and detailed analysis of the rule of law situation in Turkey in the aftermath of the attempted coup in the following interview with one of the country's leading academics in the field of human rights law, Kerem Altıparmak, who has himself brought many court cases in defence of human rights:

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... July..html
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Re: Turkey orders formal arrest of 9 Cumhuriyet newspaper st

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:28 pm

I think something is stirring. The West’s beloved so-called moderate, democratic Islamist Erdoğan is finally starting to attract some serious flack from his fans, now that the human rights situation in his country is rapidly deteriorating into something that rivals Assad’s Syria.

The following declaration has recently been issued by the EU:

EU calls on Turkey to save democracy, increasing criticism

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-turkey ... KKBN133119
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:18 pm

Meanwhile the two Cumhuriyet journalists from among those orignally detained who were subsequently released, Hikmet Çetinkaya and Aydın Engin, have started writing their columns again.

They have appeared in translation on the paper's English language pages.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... tever.html

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... t_us..html
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