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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby B25 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:02 pm

Lordo wrote:the excellent news is from zurich. they are so close to the agrement anastasiades wanted to check before he agrees. can you believe it after 53 years we are about to have an agreement.


:lol: :lol: Dream on, you have been swallowing the Turkish BS. there is no chance of any solution anytime soon, get over it.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:08 pm

Lordo wrote:the excellent news is from zurich. they are so close to the agrement anastasiades wanted to check before he agrees. can you believe it after 53 years we are about to have an agreement.

Nicos can agree to give you the whole of Cyprus and go jump in the sea for all I care but that doesn't mean that the remaining 799,999 people living under the RoC will also agree. :)

The moment Nicos stopped representing the will of his people is the moment the talks became irrelevant.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:26 pm

By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.

If Archbishop Hrisostomos ll is in favour of a deal then it's a deal, if he opposes it then its no deal.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby B25 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:06 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.

If Archbishop Hrisostomos ll is in favour of a deal then it's a deal, if he opposes it then its no deal.


The Archbishop is not the man to decide. The people will. We have gone past that stage unlike your lot in Turkey that have to obey Erdocunts demands.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:52 pm

B25 wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.

If Archbishop Hrisostomos ll is in favour of a deal then it's a deal, if he opposes it then its no deal.


The Archbishop is not the man to decide. The people will. We have gone past that stage unlike your lot in Turkey that have to obey Erdocunts demands.


Enough B25. I have said it a hundred times and you still don't get it. I will now hammer into your stubborn head. I AM A CYPRIOT, A TURKISH SPEAKING CYPRIOT. ERDOGAN IS A DISGRACE TO MANKIND AND SHOULD BE IN A STRAITJACKET.

Now back to the Archbishop. I bet my bottom dollar he says DEAL and it's a deal. He says NO DEAL and it's not a deal. Kid yourself as much as you like, he calls the shots :wink:
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:56 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
B25 wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.

If Archbishop Hrisostomos ll is in favour of a deal then it's a deal, if he opposes it then its no deal.


The Archbishop is not the man to decide. The people will. We have gone past that stage unlike your lot in Turkey that have to obey Erdocunts demands.


Enough B25. I have said it a hundred times and you still don't get it. I will now hammer into your stubborn head. I AM A CYPRIOT, A TURKISH SPEAKING CYPRIOT. ERDOGAN IS A DISGRACE TO MANKIND AND SHOULD BE IN A STRAITJACKET.

Now back to the Archbishop. I bet my bottom dollar he says DEAL and it's a deal. He says NO DEAL and it's not a deal. Kid yourself as much as you like, he calls the shots :wink:


I would not put much paper behind the Archbishop. He will only say DEAL if it satisfies his interests, like everyone else.

Why is Erdogan a disgrae to Mankind Mr-NG?
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:21 pm

This is how I see things going down.

The Turks are already sending signals that they are using they same old strategy which will probably lead to the same old outcome. Several red lines exist that will not be acceptable to the Cypriots. I also think they will withdraw their EU membership application next year. So that leverage for Cyprus on her will be gone. Not that it had any affect on her anyway. The current format of the talks will change. Cypriots do not [really] want a BBF and its extortionate divisive trimmings. They want a unified country with all its trimmings. So when the Turks say its the last chance, they might be right to a certain extent but only the last chance for a worse solution than what Cypriots already have today. What they actually mean is its the last chance for the TC's. The TC's will get marginalized even further.

Turkey will become more facist and go it alone and try to expand in to new territories thinking this will make her more powerful. Some Turkish ministers have alluded to Greek islands and they are already in Cyprus, Syria and Iraq.

I only hope that the free areas of Cyprus remain immune to their madness because any way they can get in they will try it. They cant do it by fullfilling their obligations towards the copenhagen criteria, but they will try by hook and crook. This goes for Europe in general and Cyprus as the back door.

It will all ultimately lead to the loss of life, the collapse of their economy and their demise.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:51 pm

Maximus wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
B25 wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:By agreeing to things the masses will never accept Nicos, has managed to render yet another round of talks useless.

You see the key to getting a signature from the RoC is to satisfy the native Cypriot masses but that can only come at a great cost and sacrifice to you so it’s a catch 22.

The catch 22 makes it obvious that the Cyprus problem cannot be solved through talk but only through international law and/or military action.

The UN knows that it cannot force a decision on Cyprus because it can never pass a majority through the UNGA/UNSC due to China and Russia blocking any such attempts.

If Archbishop Hrisostomos ll is in favour of a deal then it's a deal, if he opposes it then its no deal.


The Archbishop is not the man to decide. The people will. We have gone past that stage unlike your lot in Turkey that have to obey Erdocunts demands.


Enough B25. I have said it a hundred times and you still don't get it. I will now hammer into your stubborn head. I AM A CYPRIOT, A TURKISH SPEAKING CYPRIOT. ERDOGAN IS A DISGRACE TO MANKIND AND SHOULD BE IN A STRAITJACKET.

Now back to the Archbishop. I bet my bottom dollar he says DEAL and it's a deal. He says NO DEAL and it's not a deal. Kid yourself as much as you like, he calls the shots :wink:


I would not put much paper behind the Archbishop. He will only say DEAL if it satisfies his interests, like everyone else.

Why is Erdogan a disgrae to Mankind Mr-NG?

I'm sure you know better than I do, Max. Human rights? Freedom of speech? Diplomacy? Common decency? He lacks the lot and more. He is a certifiable lunatic.
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Re: Excellent news from Turkey

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:00 pm

I am sure I do know better than you do too but I am interested in your answer. I think you have been very careful to not mention anything which might be in conflict with your views and wishes for Cyprus.
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