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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:38 pm

Schnauzer wrote:Respect for Fidel Castro, a leader who could walk in safety among his subjects, a sad loss, R.I.P. :(


May I ask what kind of drugs you're on?
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
michaeldk wrote:My ex wife being from Cuba, I can't quite understand the positive attitude about him (never speak ill of the dead of course :-). Living under his rule was hell for cuban people, also why it's one of of the top countries in the world where locals are trying to escape from (Cuban population in Florida is huge, many descendants live in Spain too). Basically it's extreme poverty, hunger and a standard of life for the common people that barely exceeds that of some of the poorest African countries.

Castro was an infinitely more cruel leader than Honecker for example, yet the latter has been held far more responsible for the poverty, torture and loss of life in his country than the first. Either way, it's a very good thing Castro passed away - I hope the country can finally start to move towards a brighter future now.

He liberated the Cuban people from American decadence that had proliferated in the 30s, 40s, and 50s turning the country into a massive gambling and prostitution racket. After the liberation the Cubans survived with less but had their dignity restored.

Those he punished and exiled were American collaborators in the trashing of Cuba. Today’s Cuban community of Florida are the children of all the trash he got rid of in the 50s.


And then enslaved his people in abject poverty and slaughtered some 73,000 dissidents whilst there are over 1 million Cubans in exile in Miami alone and also in Spain.

And just look at the US and Spain give refuge to all those people. The Americans and Spanish liberated these refugees.

Btw, Cuba is still a giant prostitution racket. It thrives on its sex industry. Or should I say, gender slavery for a few basic supplies like fruit and veg.
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:46 pm

Robin Hood wrote:GR:
He liberated the Cuban people from American decadence that had proliferated in the 30s, 40s, and 50s turning the country into a massive gambling and prostitution racket. After the liberation the Cubans survived with less but had their dignity restored.
Those he punished and exiled were American collaborators in the trashing of Cuba. Today’s Cuban community of Florida are the children of all the trash he got rid of in the 50s.


I agree with you and all you need to do is look at the TV ............ most of those of the Cuban community in Florida, as seen on any TV channel, are far too young to have been witness to what they are proclaiming. They believe the version told by their parents and even then many of the parents could only have been children when it happened.

In contrast, the pictures coming from Havana show a country and a people suffering grief at the loss of a leader they clearly revered. It was the ordinary Cuban that gained from Castro’s vision and they appear to know that. They will now be concerned as I think they will lose what they gained without their ‘dictator’ ......... when the Americanised exiled Cubans move back with their American attitudes, to reclaim their losses!

I am disappointed in Trumps comments but not surprised. As a Casino and Hotel mogul, his family business more than likely had business interests in Cuba and would have been adversely affected by Castro’s revolutionary victory. So he holds a grudge. :roll:


It doesn't matter what their age was. Even the young are all too familiar with the suffering of their families.

These memories don't just die off with the previous generations as we GCs are all too familiar with as well.
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:49 pm

tsukoui wrote:I suppose Trump won't be attending the funeral in place of Obama then?


No he won't and neither will most countries.

Australia for one has no diplomatic ties with Cuba whatsoever and will never attend a funeral of a despot who killed his own people personally sometimes with his own gun and sometimes without any hearing.

Trump is a breath of fresh air actually. He calls it the way it should be called. It's a rarity in these stupid times.
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:51 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed. thanks to Castro, there exists a choice for the Cuban people.

...they need to resolve the differences among themselves, this too, is true.


But 73,000 were given no choice other than death and more than 1 million were exiled to the USA and Spain. No choice for those who disagreed with Fidel.
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:54 pm

Lordo wrote:it goes to show how stupid trump is but those who put him in power will get their just reward especially the poor people in the southern states


On the contrary.

The discontent of those who put him in power will only get bigger and stronger.

That's because the world has lost the plot. That's why you have BREXIT. Enjoy it!
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Zenon33 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:27 pm

Paphitis wrote:
tsukoui wrote:I suppose Trump won't be attending the funeral in place of Obama then?


No he won't and neither will most countries.

Australia for one has no diplomatic ties with Cuba whatsoever and will never attend a funeral of a despot who killed his own people personally sometimes with his own gun and sometimes without any hearing.

Trump is a breath of fresh air actually. He calls it the way it should be called. It's a rarity in these stupid times.




So, you're pro-Trump now :lol:
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:31 pm

Zenon33 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
tsukoui wrote:I suppose Trump won't be attending the funeral in place of Obama then?


No he won't and neither will most countries.

Australia for one has no diplomatic ties with Cuba whatsoever and will never attend a funeral of a despot who killed his own people personally sometimes with his own gun and sometimes without any hearing.

Trump is a breath of fresh air actually. He calls it the way it should be called. It's a rarity in these stupid times.




So, you're pro-Trump now :lol:


I am pro democracy and accept the judgement of the people and I also respect a Nation's institutions and the Office of The President of the USA which is the leader of a vitally important ally and world power.

The USA is important because they are a beacon of stability and security for so many countries. We have too many lunatics around the world at the moment, so their importance as a sane and sound international citizen is even more vital today than ever before.
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby miltiades » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:32 pm

Zenon33 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
tsukoui wrote:I suppose Trump won't be attending the funeral in place of Obama then?


No he won't and neither will most countries.

Australia for one has no diplomatic ties with Cuba whatsoever and will never attend a funeral of a despot who killed his own people personally sometimes with his own gun and sometimes without any hearing.

Trump is a breath of fresh air actually. He calls it the way it should be called. It's a rarity in these stupid times.




So, you're pro-Trump now :lol:

Not so long ago he was calling Trump an ...idiot!! :lol:
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Re: Adios viejo amigo

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:37 pm

miltiades wrote:
Zenon33 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
tsukoui wrote:I suppose Trump won't be attending the funeral in place of Obama then?


No he won't and neither will most countries.

Australia for one has no diplomatic ties with Cuba whatsoever and will never attend a funeral of a despot who killed his own people personally sometimes with his own gun and sometimes without any hearing.

Trump is a breath of fresh air actually. He calls it the way it should be called. It's a rarity in these stupid times.




So, you're pro-Trump now :lol:

Not so long ago he was calling Trump an ...idiot!! :lol:


He was out there yes. And I supported Hillary.

But if the election was tomorrow, I would support Trump. Yes I actually think he is on song at the moment but he has his flaws when you look at the idiotic comments he made.

However, I now believe that the elite media filtered the news to push Hillary which is why I am on the Trump bandwagon and I have every right to change my view on this as well. People can get it wrong and so can I!

As allies, we were the first country to speak to Trump through Greg Norman the Golfer who is best mates with Trumpey.
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