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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 pm

Sotos wrote:You are missing the point. Lets assume for a while that you had a proper browser and all you were missing was the ability to add extensions. Here are some of the extensions I have on this browser:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... fekeahmflj
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... pkjnoahfmg
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... ejjpmmiank
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... nkighmdlei
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... pahkbfbgej
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... jcamhihfaj

I also have extensions that are not in the Crhome Web Store, such as an extension for programming my programmable remote control. What is certain is that you couldn't keep up with my needs, let alone the needs of every other user in the world. Not only adding all possible functionality that extensions can provide is impossible, but even if you somehow managed to do that then your browser would be supper bloated. The browser I am using needs to have everything I need and as little as possible of anything that I don't need. So I tell you again ... you are wasting your time on this part also. What you should implement is support for the Chrome Web Store, not trying to replicate the functionality of a handful of extensions that would be useless to most.

:shock: Judging by your rather childish and daft extensions, what you need is to take your computer back and tell them you’re too stupid to own one! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:You are missing the point. Lets assume for a while that you had a proper browser and all you were missing was the ability to add extensions. Here are some of the extensions I have on this browser:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... fekeahmflj
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... pkjnoahfmg
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... ejjpmmiank
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... nkighmdlei
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... pahkbfbgej
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... jcamhihfaj

I also have extensions that are not in the Crhome Web Store, such as an extension for programming my programmable remote control. What is certain is that you couldn't keep up with my needs, let alone the needs of every other user in the world. Not only adding all possible functionality that extensions can provide is impossible, but even if you somehow managed to do that then your browser would be supper bloated. The browser I am using needs to have everything I need and as little as possible of anything that I don't need. So I tell you again ... you are wasting your time on this part also. What you should implement is support for the Chrome Web Store, not trying to replicate the functionality of a handful of extensions that would be useless to most.

:shock: Judging by your rather childish and daft extensions, what you need is to take your computer back and tell them you’re too stupid to own one! :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are too stupid to even understand what some of those extensions do ;)
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:45 pm

Sotos wrote:You are too stupid to even understand what some of those extensions do ;)

1. You want an extension that basically saves a page when you can already either bookmark it or save it as a PDF or an MHTML? Don’t you know how? :lol:

2. You installed a “user-agent switcher” when the chromium engine already makes U-A changing a piece of cake with flags? :shock:

Oh wait… that’s what the author of this crap is doing for you in his “extension” and you probably thought he’s a really cool programmer eh… <--- :lol:

3. You “need” an extension for u-tube previews when you can already see the up/down votes? :?

4. You have an extension for a Json editor that is already online 24/7 and pretty stupid? And what’s worse… you need help to edit Jason files??? Use notepad fool! Json files are child’s play dude… :shock: :lol:


What is wrong with you man? :? What’s with all these tossings on your hard disk?

Like I said… just take the damn thing back and get your money back!


Finally Sotos… if your needs are so simple why don’t you write such little extension-tossings yourself? Don’t you know how? :)
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Sotos » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:28 am

I knew you didn't even know what some of those extensions do :lol: Pocket is a service, when you save something with Pocket it automatically downloads it on all your devices and saves it in a nice textual form which you can read later from anywhere even without an internet connection. Just a few things from Wikipedia about this "tossing":

Pocket was introduced in August 2007 as a Mozilla Firefox browser extension, named Read It Later by Nathan (Nate) Weiner.[5] Once his product was used by millions of people, he moved his office to Silicon Valley. Four other people then joined the Read It Later team. Weiner's intention was to have the application be like a TiVo for web content and giving users access to that content on any device.[6]

Read It Later obtained venture capital investments of US$2.5 million in 2011 and an additional $5.0 million in 2012. In addition to some unnamed angel investors, funds came from Foundation Capital, Baseline Ventures, Google Ventures, and Founder Collective.[6] The company rejected an acquisition offer by Evernote after showing concerns that it intended to shut down the service and amalgamate its functionality into its main service.


On February 27, 2017, Pocket announced that it had been acquired by Mozilla Corporation, the commercial arm of Firefox's non-profit development group. Mozilla staff stated that Pocket would continue to operate as an independent subsidiary, but that it would be leveraged as part of an ongoing "Context Graph" project.[7]


The application has 17 million users[12] and 1 billion saves (both as of September 2015).[13] Some applications, such as Twitter, Flipboard, and Google Currents use Pocket's API.[3] Pocket was listed among Time's 50 Best Android Applications for 2013.[14]


The user agent switcher is a simple extension that does a simple job much faster than manually changing UA. The youtube extension shows the ratings for youtube videos when they are shown in all kinds of lists, without the need to go to the page of each video individually to see the up votes. Very useful. The json extension is just a simple extension for visualizing large json files. Probably you just learned about json since you called it "Jason" ... a newbie mistake ;) I could write several of those extensions myself but there is no need since they already exist and they are free. I don't like to waste my time like you do ... but if I did have some time to waste then I would rather write some useful extensions rather than something that nobody will ever use!
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:51 am

Sotos wrote:I knew you didn't even know what some of those extensions do :lol: Pocket is a service, when you save something with Pocket it automatically downloads it on all your devices and saves it in a nice textual form which you can read later from anywhere even without an internet connection. Just a few things from Wikipedia about this "tossing":

That there are millions of FOOLS who don’t know how to use the Internet/computers is an old story Sotos, and you seem to be one of them.

There’s absolutely NOTHING that this daft extension can do that you cannot already do without it!

Don’t you know how to save a PDF or MHTML and then sync it with your remaining devices? :? :lol:

These junk-apps thrive because there are BILLIONS of fools like you who don’t know how to properly use tools that they already have!

The json extension is just a simple extension for visualizing large json files. Probably you just learned about json since you called it "Jason" ... a newbie mistake ;)

Idiotic fool, every Chromium app and extension needs a manifest.json to work, and every node-webkit app also needs a package.json to work.

Just for the record the Classic's is 4.5kb in size and to you it would be like trying to read Chinese... :lol:

I could write several of those extensions myself but there is no need since they already exist and they are free. I don't like to waste my time like you do ... but if I did have some time to waste then I would rather write some useful extensions rather than something that nobody will ever use!

I don't think so Sotos... you'll be lucky to spell your name right. You ain't no programmer... I don't know what the fuck you are but you ain't no programmer. :? :lol:
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Sotos » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:53 am

:lol: First of all saving as PDFs or MHTML generates huge files. Pocket can save just the relevant text of a website. Secondly, please do tell me how you can save and sync the content of any website in 1 second (that is how much it takes to click the pocket button) without installing anything on neither your browser nor your mobile devices. I will be waiting for you to demonstrate this :roll: I am dealing with 1000s of json files and I have used json with various APIs and for other applications for many years... long before the time that you saw those json files in Chromium and you had to figure out what they are for ;)
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:28 am

Sotos wrote::lol: First of all saving as PDFs or MHTML generates huge files. Pocket can save just the relevant text of a website. Secondly, please do tell me how you can save and sync the content of any website in 1 second (that is how much it takes to click the pocket button) without installing anything on neither your browser nor your mobile devices. I will be waiting for you to demonstrate this :roll:

:roll: But you *do* a sync every day anyway don’t you? You think it’ll make much difference if one more file (a PDF) joins the syncing? With today’s baud rates you won’t even notice it.

But anyway… in Chrome you can press [Ctrl + S] and then email the attachment to yourself, or alternatively just drop it in your dropbox. (or whatever service you’re on)

Tomorrow I’ll write a fully automated “Email this page” to add to my browser.

Probably two hours work... and there goes your extension down the toilet! :lol:

I am dealing with 1000s of json files and I have used json with various APIs and for other applications for many years... long before the time that you saw those json files in Chromium and you had to figure out what they are for ;)

So during your breaks when you're not sweeping the floor or making the coffee, they get you to check if there's a square or curly bracket missing? :?
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:31 am

Get Real! wrote:Tomorrow I’ll write a fully automated “Email this page” to add to my browser.

Done...

* Added the ability to email a web page as a HTML file attachment under... Main Menu > Page Operations > Email Page
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Sotos » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:07 pm

Sour grapes ;) You can not possibly make something like Pocket so you've done something very basic and you are calling it "better". And if somebody wants that basic functionality there are already extensions for that as well: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... pndbbjallh which have more features and do a better job. This reminds me of an argument we had in 2009 when you said you were still using IE 6 :lol:

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:IE8 is perfect; I use it for 6 months now, in beta mode, and didn't have any problems. By the way, I just downloaded the finalized official version. Mozila Firefox, opera, chrome are all garbage. :wink:

Should I be ashamed to admit that I'm still using IE6.0 ? :lol:


Not if it serves you well.

Well it does… new versions of software are always more bloated and slower, so I don’t see the reason to upgrade for the sake of one or two new features I’ll probably never use anyway.


It is not just about features you see, like tabs, but about features you don't see, like better CSS and Javascript support, and also faster rendering and better security. Wait a year from now and you will see that the most advanced websites will not work or will look broken on your IE6 and then you will be forced to upgrade ;) Try visiting advanced websites with IE4 today and you will see what I mean.


Get Real! wrote:If the idea of a Browser is to BROWSE web pages then NOBODY does it better than IE, and I couldn’t care less what’s in those menus of all those 3rd party browsers because it’s not the browser I’m interested in but the WEBSITES I go to themselves!!! I think some people seem to have missed the plot of what a browser is all about.

End of story as far as I’m concerned.


Arguing against extensions is like arguing against tabs... for once again you are just making a fool of yourself. Funny how back then you considered a necessary feature such as tabs as bloat that you don't need, but now you are trying to make a browser with all sorts of useless to most features and you ignore the main feature you need to add: extensions. So if you want to be taken half seriously, not as a competitor to Google but at least as not a complete joke, then (1) Make your browser work properly... I tried to install it so I can point to you some of the many issues I am sure it has, but it wouldn't even run on Windows 10! (2) Make a decent design that doesn't look like it was made by a 3 year old. (3) Make a proper website for it ... not one that your pages are freaking .txt files! (4) add support for extensions via the Chrome Web Store. Then you will have a half decent result for an amateur.
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Re: The Classic Browser... at last!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:41 pm

Sotos wrote:So if you want to be taken half seriously, not as a competitor to Google but at least as not a complete joke,

I’m afraid it is YOUR browser that is useless because it can’t do very much.
For example…

It can’t handle RSS/Atom feeds
It can’t download U-tube videos
It cannot switch to a multi-frame mode
It cannot scrape pages for anything
It cannot multi-search
It has a primitive and very limited bookmaking system
It can’t handle disk I/O on your domain
It can’t apply filters
It can’t rotate the viewport
It can’t email pages
It can’t remove annoying banners
It can’t block keywords
It can’t normalize documents

On top of being bare-bones it’s slow and shitty and the most insecure browser on the market that is DESIGNED by the owner to spy on you.

What you’re using is in fact a very bad LEMON Sotos, and here’s the evidence…

http://theclassictools.com/Tests.htm

:lol:


I tried to install it so I can point to you some of the many issues I am sure it has, but it wouldn't even run on Windows 10!

It's your stupid anti-virus. Set the program as a "trusted" one, in its list of "trusted publishers" and you shouldn't have any problems.

I have lots of Windows 10 users… I see them by their user agent strings in my website stats.
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