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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:28 pm

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Robin Hood wrote:I’ll let you into a secret ..... one of them even followed me here as things went quiet in the ‘Debating Section’ when I left ..... maybe he was following a friend or maybe he found it lonely without ProVox? Who knows? :roll:


Mmmmmmm. Not strictly correct. 'Things" were lively enough until 23rd June. At that point the Forum (like most expat outlets I suspect) was saturated with Brexit posts. After which there's thankfully been a relative quiet. As in here. I'm sure that won't last forever though and frankly don't miss all the old hassle too much :D This Forum, complete with your adversary Paphitis, seems admirably suited to your needs. :wink:

I "followed" quite a while before that date, in the sense of curiosity to see what somebody is going to do (or rather say) next. :wink:

Since then I have made a sterling effort not to tread on your toes, although of course I recognise and (surprise, surprise) am at odds with much of what you post.

As far as CL is concerned. After all this time I find myself feeling sorry for Jim. He wanted to run a simple information and social outlet with no hassle. In a sense he was quite successful in that respect. Life isn't that simple of course and I believe he felt overwhelmed and threatened when somebody with a bit of savvy expressed views diametrically opposed to his. Then he routinely over reacted. It was OK to criticise Thatcher but not to praise her - sort of thing. Put simply he was temperamentally unsuited for the running of a modern, diverse Chat Forum, I hope he isn't bitter and enjoys his retirement.

Ding, ding! Seconds out!


My main criticism of that site and how it was run was in the unfair propagation of posts sympathetic to a divided Cyprus. There were numerous outright pro-division comments and countless pro-"border" posts plus people allowed to actively encourage entering Cyprus illegally and then simply travel "South". Recently there was a lot of false information posted about it being legal to do so.

Unfortunately, I suppose too many of the site's buddies/regulars were the culprits and *he* simply allowed their posts. Whereas, anyone attempting to correct such false anti-Cypriot information was simply deleted or banned. Well, those without some anodyne English-sounding name ...
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:06 am

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Robin Hood wrote:I’ll let you into a secret ..... one of them even followed me here as things went quiet in the ‘Debating Section’ when I left ..... maybe he was following a friend or maybe he found it lonely without ProVox? Who knows? :roll:


Mmmmmmm. Not strictly correct. 'Things" were lively enough until 23rd June. At that point the Forum (like most expat outlets I suspect) was saturated with Brexit posts. After which there's thankfully been a relative quiet. As in here. I'm sure that won't last forever though and frankly don't miss all the old hassle too much :D This Forum, complete with your adversary Paphitis, seems admirably suited to your needs. :wink:

I "followed" quite a while before that date, in the sense of curiosity to see what somebody is going to do (or rather say) next. :wink:

Since then I have made a sterling effort not to tread on your toes, although of course I recognise and (surprise, surprise) am at odds with much of what you post.

As far as CL is concerned. After all this time I find myself feeling sorry for Jim. He wanted to run a simple information and social outlet with no hassle. In a sense he was quite successful in that respect. Life isn't that simple of course and I believe he felt overwhelmed and threatened when somebody with a bit of savvy expressed views diametrically opposed to his. Then he routinely over reacted. It was OK to criticise Thatcher but not to praise her - sort of thing. Put simply he was temperamentally unsuited for the running of a modern, diverse Chat Forum, I hope he isn't bitter and enjoys his retirement.

Ding, ding! Seconds out!


It would never take much to get banned on that forum.

Most members here wouldn't last a week.

People from there should join this forum because there is far more freedom within reason and if they don't like politics they can stay in General Chat.

If you email Admin, he will even make other sections as long as there is a demand for it.

I joined there once, but didn't last long. Never joined again. it's a pointless forum full of NOTHING. Mind numbing.

Yeh I perused the posts of ProVox. he was very unhinged and fixated on 2 topics:
1) banking and Finance - the evils of capitalism and the creation of money and wealth
2) his hatred of the West and the USA.

Very strange indeed! :?
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:15 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I’ll let you into a secret ..... one of them even followed me here as things went quiet in the ‘Debating Section’ when I left ..... maybe he was following a friend or maybe he found it lonely without ProVox? Who knows? :roll:


Mmmmmmm. Not strictly correct. 'Things" were lively enough until 23rd June. At that point the Forum (like most expat outlets I suspect) was saturated with Brexit posts. After which there's thankfully been a relative quiet. As in here. I'm sure that won't last forever though and frankly don't miss all the old hassle too much :D This Forum, complete with your adversary Paphitis, seems admirably suited to your needs. :wink:

I "followed" quite a while before that date, in the sense of curiosity to see what somebody is going to do (or rather say) next. :wink:

Since then I have made a sterling effort not to tread on your toes, although of course I recognise and (surprise, surprise) am at odds with much of what you post.

As far as CL is concerned. After all this time I find myself feeling sorry for Jim. He wanted to run a simple information and social outlet with no hassle. In a sense he was quite successful in that respect. Life isn't that simple of course and I believe he felt overwhelmed and threatened when somebody with a bit of savvy expressed views diametrically opposed to his. Then he routinely over reacted. It was OK to criticise Thatcher but not to praise her - sort of thing. Put simply he was temperamentally unsuited for the running of a modern, diverse Chat Forum, I hope he isn't bitter and enjoys his retirement.

Ding, ding! Seconds out!


My main criticism of that site and how it was run was in the unfair propagation of posts sympathetic to a divided Cyprus. There were numerous outright pro-division comments and countless pro-"border" posts plus people allowed to actively encourage entering Cyprus illegally and then simply travel "South". Recently there was a lot of false information posted about it being legal to do so.

Unfortunately, I suppose too many of the site's buddies/regulars were the culprits and *he* simply allowed their posts. Whereas, anyone attempting to correct such false anti-Cypriot information was simply deleted or banned. Well, those without some anodyne English-sounding name ...


That is true too.

My advice to any Brits as a Cypriot. Please be sensitive to the unacceptable situation where a part of Cyprus is illegally occupied. Do not condone or support this unacceptable status quo. You have all chosen to live in Cyprus for whatever reason, and even though some of you don't have the citizenship yet, you have indeed chosen Cyprus as your country now and it is imperative that you respect the Cypriot people, and the political issues of the Republic.

Even though many of you might not be very political, it is important to respect the politics and culture of the island.

Do not brag about crossing the Ceasefire line, shopping in occupied territories, or catching flights from the illegal port of entry in the occupied area.

IT IS VERY OFFENSIVE!
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:20 am

My advise as a Brit to Brits living in Cyprus....all of what Paphitis says above...and for the Orams of this World, Fuck off back to Britain......and Cherie, stay there!
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I’ll let you into a secret ..... one of them even followed me here as things went quiet in the ‘Debating Section’ when I left ..... maybe he was following a friend or maybe he found it lonely without ProVox? Who knows? :roll:


Mmmmmmm. Not strictly correct. 'Things" were lively enough until 23rd June. At that point the Forum (like most expat outlets I suspect) was saturated with Brexit posts. After which there's thankfully been a relative quiet. As in here. I'm sure that won't last forever though and frankly don't miss all the old hassle too much :D This Forum, complete with your adversary Paphitis, seems admirably suited to your needs. :wink:

I "followed" quite a while before that date, in the sense of curiosity to see what somebody is going to do (or rather say) next. :wink:

Since then I have made a sterling effort not to tread on your toes, although of course I recognise and (surprise, surprise) am at odds with much of what you post.

As far as CL is concerned. After all this time I find myself feeling sorry for Jim. He wanted to run a simple information and social outlet with no hassle. In a sense he was quite successful in that respect. Life isn't that simple of course and I believe he felt overwhelmed and threatened when somebody with a bit of savvy expressed views diametrically opposed to his. Then he routinely over reacted. It was OK to criticise Thatcher but not to praise her - sort of thing. Put simply he was temperamentally unsuited for the running of a modern, diverse Chat Forum, I hope he isn't bitter and enjoys his retirement.

Ding, ding! Seconds out!


My main criticism of that site and how it was run was in the unfair propagation of posts sympathetic to a divided Cyprus. There were numerous outright pro-division comments and countless pro-"border" posts plus people allowed to actively encourage entering Cyprus illegally and then simply travel "South". Recently there was a lot of false information posted about it being legal to do so.

Unfortunately, I suppose too many of the site's buddies/regulars were the culprits and *he* simply allowed their posts. Whereas, anyone attempting to correct such false anti-Cypriot information was simply deleted or banned. Well, those without some anodyne English-sounding name ...


That is true too.

My advice to any Brits as a Cypriot. Please be sensitive to the unacceptable situation where a part of Cyprus is illegally occupied. Do not condone or support this unacceptable status quo. You have all chosen to live in Cyprus for whatever reason, and even though some of you don't have the citizenship yet, you have indeed chosen Cyprus as your country now and it is imperative that you respect the Cypriot people, and the political issues of the Republic.

Even though many of you might not be very political, it is important to respect the politics and culture of the island.

Do not brag about crossing the Ceasefire line, shopping in occupied territories, or catching flights from the illegal port of entry in the occupied area.

IT IS VERY OFFENSIVE!


STOP PREACHING :roll: ..... you don't live here or in the EU, but it does not stop you expressing your opinions!
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:26 pm

Paphitis:
Yeh I perused the posts of ProVox. he was very unhinged and fixated on 2 topics:
1) banking and Finance - the evils of capitalism and the creation of money and wealth
2) his hatred of the West and the USA.


That is because I generally only comment on things on which I have some degree knowledge ! That is why I would stay off 'The Cyprus Problem' because I don't know anything about it!

I don't have a problem with earned wealth, don't have a problem with money creation .... just with allowing private banks to create it out of nothing and I don't have a problem with capitalism ..... provided there are controls. So, one out of four is a good score for you, as you normally manage to get it all wrong! :roll:

Yes ProVox has a dislike of many Western Governments and their NWO, US hegemony and the threat NATO poses to World peace; but ProVox has a great empathy for Iran and Russia ......... both of whom seem to have come out trumps this year. :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:41 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I’ll let you into a secret ..... one of them even followed me here as things went quiet in the ‘Debating Section’ when I left ..... maybe he was following a friend or maybe he found it lonely without ProVox? Who knows? :roll:


Mmmmmmm. Not strictly correct. 'Things" were lively enough until 23rd June. At that point the Forum (like most expat outlets I suspect) was saturated with Brexit posts. After which there's thankfully been a relative quiet. As in here. I'm sure that won't last forever though and frankly don't miss all the old hassle too much :D This Forum, complete with your adversary Paphitis, seems admirably suited to your needs. :wink:

I "followed" quite a while before that date, in the sense of curiosity to see what somebody is going to do (or rather say) next. :wink:

Since then I have made a sterling effort not to tread on your toes, although of course I recognise and (surprise, surprise) am at odds with much of what you post.

As far as CL is concerned. After all this time I find myself feeling sorry for Jim. He wanted to run a simple information and social outlet with no hassle. In a sense he was quite successful in that respect. Life isn't that simple of course and I believe he felt overwhelmed and threatened when somebody with a bit of savvy expressed views diametrically opposed to his. Then he routinely over reacted. It was OK to criticise Thatcher but not to praise her - sort of thing. Put simply he was temperamentally unsuited for the running of a modern, diverse Chat Forum, I hope he isn't bitter and enjoys his retirement.

Ding, ding! Seconds out!


My main criticism of that site and how it was run was in the unfair propagation of posts sympathetic to a divided Cyprus. There were numerous outright pro-division comments and countless pro-"border" posts plus people allowed to actively encourage entering Cyprus illegally and then simply travel "South". Recently there was a lot of false information posted about it being legal to do so.

Unfortunately, I suppose too many of the site's buddies/regulars were the culprits and *he* simply allowed their posts. Whereas, anyone attempting to correct such false anti-Cypriot information was simply deleted or banned. Well, those without some anodyne English-sounding name ...


That is true too.

My advice to any Brits as a Cypriot. Please be sensitive to the unacceptable situation where a part of Cyprus is illegally occupied. Do not condone or support this unacceptable status quo. You have all chosen to live in Cyprus for whatever reason, and even though some of you don't have the citizenship yet, you have indeed chosen Cyprus as your country now and it is imperative that you respect the Cypriot people, and the political issues of the Republic.

Even though many of you might not be very political, it is important to respect the politics and culture of the island.

Do not brag about crossing the Ceasefire line, shopping in occupied territories, or catching flights from the illegal port of entry in the occupied area.

IT IS VERY OFFENSIVE!


STOP PREACHING :roll: ..... you don't live here or in the EU, but it does not stop you expressing your opinions!


Who told you I need to live there? Don't make me start posting all of your anti Cyprus posts here and let the cat out of the bag on your actual cyprus problem stance.

I am an EU Citizen and am entitled to vote in the Euro Elections therefore I am allowed to express whatever I like as a citizen of Europe and of the Republic.

You however are a foreigner and do not have any geopolitical sensitivity to the Republic's very precarious position. You just want it to continue so that there is instability, but the Republic will not subscribe to your daft assessments or opinions.

It is an ally of Israel now, much to your disgust.

As for me, I only support the Republic and Australia, not Russia and its interests. Cyprus has its rightful place along side Western powers. It is one of us.

It can never betray be an opposing side with Greece and it has close relations with UK, USA, Australia, Israel and France. The USA doesn't practice hegemony. All countries have their free sovereignty to do what they want. And this NWO is in your head unless you're talking about Globalization (which isn't an American thing as trump is against it) or the free movement of trade and money. Most countries would rather be friends with the USA than they would Russia. Pootin is on the nose everywhere.

Now piss off bozo! let's just agree to not talk to each other. Stupid old fart. :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:56 am

Cyprus does indeed need powerful and influential friends such as the USA , Israel and the west in general. It also needs other powers such as Russia, Paphitis unhealthy obsession with Putin and Russia is rather childish and unbalanced. There are thousands of Russians in Cyprus contributing to our economy. My daughter works for a Russian owned company and so do two other family members.

I have come to know Russians sufficiently enough over the last six years and have formulated a non biased opinion, one that is not dictated to by western misinformation . How many times does one listen to the rubbish said about the Russian people, such as, they are unfriendly, they don't smile, they have no sense of humour. All rubbish.
Contrary to what Paphitis says about Putin being hated the opposite is the truth. Putin has shown the world that he is a diplomat unlike Obama, Putin stood by his friends in Syria where as Obama did a runner.

The world needs peace and stability, we need good relations with Russia, China and other powerful nations. Just imagine if ....Paphitis, who once expressed that WW3 is not such a bad thing, was the newly elected US president :lol: :lol: The mind boggles :lol:
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:28 am

Paphitis:

Who told you I need to live there? Don't make me start posting all of your anti Cyprus posts here and let the cat out of the bag on your actual cyprus problem stance.


But you feel that you, as a non-resident, have the right to tell those that do here live by choice and contribute to the economy, that THEY have no right to an opinion ......... unless of course it complies with your opinion? {Please feel free to post ALL my ‘anti-Cyprus posts’ ...... that WILL be interesting!) :roll: :lol: :lol:

I am an EU Citizen and am entitled to vote in the Euro Elections therefore I am allowed to express whatever I like as a citizen of Europe and of the Republic.


You may have an EU Passport, but so do countless thousands of foreigners who have no connection with any EU member nation. Examples Americans, Canadians, Indians, Pakistanis, Somali’s, Saudis, Russians even Australians ...... I would guess there is a foreign national of every country on the Planet, with an EU passport. You are nothing special ! :roll:

You however are a foreigner and do not have any geopolitical sensitivity to the Republic's very precarious position. You just want it to continue so that there is instability, but the Republic will not subscribe to your daft assessments or opinions.


More uninformed opinion! You have no clue what my views are on the Cyprus Problem. I live here, I don’t take sides but do talk about it with Cypriot friends. Whist, as friends we express our views in private, you seem to think that even though you don’t live here, your publicly expressed opinion has more validity than those that do?

It is an ally of Israel now, much to your disgust.


IMO: I think that will turn out to be a mistake. Israel is a rogue nation that practices apartheid and has undeclared nuclear/chemical/biological weapons, the last two they have been proven to have used on the people of Gaza. It is ideologically on the same level as North Korea!

As for me, I only support the Republic and Australia, not Russia and its interests. Cyprus has its rightful place along side Western powers. It is one of us.


I respect the country I live in. It was my choice to live here and I take the good with the bad. Like you, that does not preclude me from having an opinion on my country of birth.

If Cyprus is '....one of us.' then why do we not see US, Australian and other coalition aircraft operating from Akrotiri, Pahos, Larnaca ? Only the RAF carry out operation from Cyprus and from SBA airfield of Akrotiri ..... which the British government regards as a bit of the UK.

It can never betray be an opposing side with Greece and it has close relations with UK, USA, Australia, Israel and France.


Can’t work out what you are try to say!

The USA doesn't practice hegemony.


Oh boy! You must be friggin joking!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think this common dictionary definition says otherwise ......... you are obviously not as well educated as you claim!

Hegemony - noun, plural hegemonies.

1. leadership or predominant influence exercised by one nation over others, as in a confederation.
2. leadership; predominance.
3. (especially among smaller nations) aggression or expansionism by large nations in an effort to achieve world domination.


I would suggest that a country whose elected leader (Pres. Barak Obama) declares publicly that his country is “ The exceptional and indispensable Nation” would unquestionably match the above description? That is why the US spends ten times as much on its military as the Russians do and has over 800 military bases across the Globe ......... Russia has two! :roll:

All countries have their free sovereignty to do what they want. And this NWO is in your head unless you're talking about Globalization (which isn't an American thing as trump is against it) or the free movement of trade and money. Most countries would rather be friends with the USA than they would Russia. Pootin is on the nose everywhere.


Once more ..... in your opinion! :roll: Countries that the US have an interest in ...... only have free sovereignty if that sovereignty is fully in compliance with US hegemony. If not, ..... then the US change the sovereignty (Regime change .... I assume you know what that is?)!

Name one company that does not have a management? Globalisation is driven predominantly by the US banking and industrial conglomerates, a massive World wide ‘Company’. You think all these entities can act in unison without a ‘Board of Directors’ ? What would you like to call them ? Maybe the oft referred to ..... 0.0001 % of the population......... or about 7,000 individuals.

Now piss off bozo! let's just agree to not talk to each other. Stupid old fart.


I do not need to stoop to your level of insulting dialogue, I will only call you what you demonstrate as a suitable description from the content of your posts. You just show by comments like that, that you are ignorant of forum protocols, which is no surprise. This ‘stupid old fart’ is much, much smarter, better informed and knowledgeable than you are ...... or ever will be. :lol:
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Re: The Peyia Pensioners' site is closing down!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:58 am

You are not a citizen of the Republic. I am! The first sentence of your post is the only one I casually skimmed as I didn't read anything else.

There are citizens of various countries around the world living in other countries. They are still citizens and in addition, my roots in Cyprus go back to at least 10,000 years.

Back then, your ancestors were swinging from tree to tree. I am an Eteo-Cypriot Aboriginal. You're a POM!

Now, STOP talking to me and I will stop communicating with you. It's simple enough.


Oh and btw, one might want to ask president Anastasiades' opinion on pootin and Russia. he admitted privately (according to reporters) that he does not consider Russia a true friend of Cyprus and that he believes Russia is acting against Cypriot interests and in support of Turkey. Russia does not want a solution to the Cyprus problem.

he has however invited the USA to accompany him to Geneva including representatives of the EU.

poor bastard won't say it in public though because in Cyprus that is a hang-able offence until all the old farts and HIS BEASTITUDE DIE!

He also stated that relations with the USA are far more conducive these days with the Cypriot national Interest and that the geopolitics of the region are changing because of the Republic's strategic alliance with Israel.

It's just as well the USA and the EU will be there for 2 reasons:
1) the EU needs to demand full adherence to the EU Charter,
2) USA and EU can put forward alternatives to The Treaty of Establishment and Treaty of Guarantee with full NATO membership.

Only way forward because no one can say there are security issues when the republic's security is guaranteed and protected under the EU and NATO's Article 5.

The Greek Government has received personal assurances from Obama that the USA's role in the negotiations will be positive for the Republic. He re-iterated that the USA is willing to offer any support necessary to achieve a solution. What that means no one really knows (I hope Anastasiades does) but I am hoping it involves the Anachronistic Treaty of Guarantee and NATO.

It's time the republic was not just a full member of the EU, but its accompanying Security Treaty along side all other EU States.

My advice to all those who oppose NATO - grow a brain. Cyprus is not hostage to your anachronistic ideals of the 50s and 60s. We all move on and want real security and peace. We don't want to be playing any tit for tat between superpowers or be used as a pawn. I mean seriously, it's not as if the Republic can offer anything substantial to NATO but NATO can provide something very substantial to the Republic which is very important to a small country like Cyprus - SECURITY!

Choose EU and NATO otherwise you will end up with that idiot Erdogan forever. Choose Russia, and you are at the mercy of the devil which will steamroll Cyprus at a time of its choosing in order to ferment instability within NATO. And you will end up with Turkey again. Can't you all see? Russia and Turkey are in alliance and they will choose Turkey any day in order to protect its interests in Syria.

Russia = Turkey
Pootin = Erdog

USA/NATO/EU + allies = hope.


You will never get it all your way all the time. That is a FACT! But you won't get done over and bent over a barrel or table while everyone has their way with you either.
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