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[GreekIslandGirl]

I think the message coming out of Davos is that the sooner the UK actually Brexits, the sooner they can begin to renegotiate EU re-entry (Brentry?).

You obviously have the inside track.

And so do most Guardian readers ... among other things Britain's friend (shitbag) Soros said:

The divorce is going to take a very long time. Its much harder to divorce than to get married, so I think the desire for rapprochement will develop, and in theory or maybe even in practice you could have a situation in 2019 or 2020 when Britain will leave the EU because it does have to take place, but they could leave on a Friday but join over the weekend and have the new arrangement in place in Monday morning.

[Londonrake]

It's a fantasy. Do you earnestly believe, that if the likes of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece were outside the EU and asked if they wished to join - they would say yes?

[GreekIslandGirl]

It's a fantasy. Do you earnestly believe, that if the likes of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece were outside the EU and asked if they wished to join - they would say yes?

Yes, they would because unlike you they have vision and foresight.

Like most Brexiters you are a short-termist xenophobe.

I am pleased the UK left because it is the best thing for Europe.

The UK was the main problem with the EU and now it has left. The Euro is continuing its steady climb. The EU army is going to grow unhindered by UK opposition. The threat of Turkey joining is diminished.

Europeans together forever!

[Londonrake]

The EU is obsessed with naval gazing. It's all consuming preocuppation with centralisation and bureaucracy has created economic stagnation and widespread hostility. It exists to protect myopic vested interests, whatever the cost. Germania dominates and, with their French collaborative sycophants, subjects all of the southern states to financial purgatory. Anti EU movements are rising exponentially. Now the second largest contributor and greatest military power has had enough and is leaving. And at this time of multiple crises - this is a good thing? It's a total disaster for the Federation. And what do we hear? That the UK must be "punished" for exercising it's democratic right to leave - as an example to other would-be's. This is the essence of your wonderful Federation. It has to inflict pain on any nation that seeks to leave.

Now the UK can do what it should always have been doing. Moving out into the wider world to trade. That is the exact opposite of short-termism and xenophobia.

Enjoy your incarceration. Baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

Frankly, you are long on (not too bright) rhetoric but somewhat short on intellect.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Now the UK can do what it should always have been doing. Moving out into the wider world to trade.

Yeah, for decades, the world has been twiddling its thumbs waiting for 60 million lazy, debt-ridden Brits with whom to trade.

[Londonrake]

Now the UK can do what it should always have been doing. Moving out into the wider world to trade.

Yeah, for decades, the world has been twiddling its thumbs waiting for 60 million lazy, debt-ridden Brits with whom to trade.

I think that very much sums up your ignorance. Thank you. The defence rests. Although, wait:

The EU's combined debts amount to €10,320,106,100,000. Furthermore the ECB has printed upwards of a £trillion in "funny money" to keep the dance going. Tell me again about being "debt ridden".

They say ignorance is bliss. Clearly, you are a very happy person.

[GreekIslandGirl]

They say ignorance is bliss.

Here, have some data to make you weep ....


Rank Country US dollars Date Per capita

2. United Kingdom 146,244
3. France 86,317
20. Russian Federation 3,634
27. Greece 47,636
45. Cyprus 37,812

[Robin Hood]

Trump strikes me as an arrogant and not very well educated individual but his inability to make fancy speeches is what has allowed him to get his message over. If you look at some of the points Trump has made on immigration and the US economy, they are remarkably similar to those May is proposing as the aims of terms of a Brexit.

The UK wants control of its own borders .... so does Trump. It is not a question of applying the Israel principal of erecting a barrier to anyone but their own nationals, it is a question of a State having the right to decide who they want and who they do not want in their Country. He needs a ‘wall’ as he has land borders ..... the UK has a moat!

The UK wants to have bi-lateral ties with other countries .... so does Trump. Trump wants to dismantle collective agreements, which is in effect what the EU single Market is and then negotiate bi-lateral trade agreements. He is decentralising trade agreements.

The UK wants to put Britains first ..... so does Trump. Both want to see their economies bring jobs and wealth back to their respective countries. This means curbing the powers of multinational organisations.

The UK wants to redirect wealth to the People instead of the small cabal that constitutes the Establishment Elite .... so does Trump.

The difference between the two is that May expresses her perceptions in ways that are politicall and diplomatically correct .... Trump shoots from the hip and says it like it is in a simple and direct manner ...... a diplomat Trump is not but I think it actually works in his favour. As we saw with his rebuke to the CNN reporter, he does not stand by the usual protocols.

May needs to do the same with Herr Junker and his pals. If she is faced with smug arrogance when they start negotiating ..... she should thank them for nothing ...... leave the room ..... and walk away from the EU, thus forcing the issue. When countries within the EU realise it is hurting them economically then Junkers vision of the EU as a Federal State is finished.

I just hope she has the balls (ovaries ?) to be that bold and decisive.

GIG: You need to differentiate between Public (State) Debt and Private Debt, the latter is by far the most significant.

[Londonrake]

To be accused of being debt ridden and lazy by somebody calling themselves "Greek .............." has to be the Everest of hypocrisy.

Due to its (Goldman Sachs fiddled) membership of the mighty Euro that country and its people are currently condemned to unending financial purgatory. Deutschland Uber Alles.

Yes, of course they would all vote to join the wonderful EU.

[Tim Drayton]

It's a fantasy. Do you earnestly believe, that if the likes of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece were outside the EU and asked if they wished to join - they would say yes?

Yes, I do.