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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:48 am

A little taster of how referendums are run in Eroğan's fascist Turkey: Two university canteen workers are sacked for a social media post in support of 'No'. As one of the women says, what's the point of holding a referendum if it is not for people to express their opinion?

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... acked.html
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:25 am

Curious. Yet another sign of a change in the way official bodies in the West are portraying Erdoğan and his crooked buddies:

OSCE Blasts Turkey over Intimidation of “No” Campaigners Ahead of Referendum

https://nsnbc.me/2017/04/05/osce-blasts ... eferendum/

I mean, blatant intimidation and rigging have been going on in Turkish elections for years, but Western sources would have you believe that Erdoğan is a lovely, cuddly Islamist democratic and everything there is hunky-dory. Until this most recent poll, that is.
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:32 pm

My goodness me, this from Rupert Murdoch’s The Times today. I mean, this is how Erdoğan has been winning elections for years while the West looked the other way then proclaimed him to be a shining example of an Islamist democrat. What gives?

Monitors accuse Erdogan over poll resources

President Erdogan is gleaning an unfair advantage in advance of an important constitutional referendum next Sunday by using state resources in his campaign and muzzling his opponents, election monitors say.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moni ... -qnrbvnhqj
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:03 pm

An interview with the CEOs of three top polling companies that suggests the referendum vote is currently neck and neck.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... _edge.html
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:26 am

The final poll to come out before the referendum puts 'No' on 53.75% and 'Yes' on 46.25%.

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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Kikapu » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:54 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The final poll to come out before the referendum puts 'No' on 53.75% and 'Yes' on 46.25%.

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http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/foto/turki ... 75....html


After Erdogan cheats to victory, he will just say to the media and pollsters, "you see, you have gotten it wrong again, after Brexit and Trump"!
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:31 am

My fear, too. There seems to be little doubt that 'No' is slightly ahead in the real vote, but the margin is small enough for them to rig it. Unless ... somebody manages to stop them from doing so or exposes them after the event.
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Kikapu » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:53 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:My fear, too. There seems to be little doubt that 'No' is slightly ahead in the real vote, but the margin is small enough for them to rig it. Unless ... somebody manages to stop them from doing so or exposes them after the event.


Tim, even if Erdogan does lose by some miracle, he will just hold another referendum in about three months and continue doing so until he wins, that's all. That's what he means by "Turkish style democracy". The whole thing is a joke.
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:08 pm

On the other hand, some people are starting to think that he is now damned if he wins and damned if he loses. After all, the economy is disintegrating, his grand regional neo-colonial designs are in tatters and have left him looking foolish and relations with Europe are at an all-time low. One view along these lines from one of Cumhuriyet's more astute columnists (in English translation):

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... pril_.html
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Re: Erdogan waiting for Trump's phone call...

Postby Kikapu » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:36 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:On the other hand, some people are starting to think that he is now damned if he wins and damned if he loses. After all, the economy is disintegrating, his grand regional neo-colonial designs are in tatters and have left him looking foolish and relations with Europe are at an all-time low. One view along these lines from one of Cumhuriyet's more astute columnists (in English translation):

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... pril_.html


A Good article....thanks.
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