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Is this genocide?

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:43 pm

Assad's regime 'hanged up to 13,000 people in mass executions at military prison'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02 ... ry-prison/
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:57 pm

No it's fake news.
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:No it's fake news.


It's very trendy. It appears that absolutely anything which doesn't fit a particular agenda nowadays instantly becomes "fake news".

It seems that even the likes of Amnesty International are into it. :|
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:35 pm

Killing in these countries is ...part of life, a cultural thing if you like !!
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Sotos » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:56 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:No it's fake news.


It's very trendy. It appears that absolutely anything which doesn't fit a particular agenda nowadays instantly becomes "fake news".

It seems that even the likes of Amnesty International are into it. :|


What is trendy is for Western media to produce fake news against Russia. How do I know those news are fake? Because they have done it for Cyprus as well when Politico and New York Times published articles that Russia is supposedly opposing a solution to the Cyprus Problem and published lies and propaganda about everybody who opposes their plans for Cyprus. Now that we know that they are liars why would we believe the crap they write? If they lie about Cyprus it makes sense that they would lie about Syria and about everything else as it suits them.
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:24 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:No it's fake news.


It's very trendy. It appears that absolutely anything which doesn't fit a particular agenda nowadays instantly becomes "fake news".

It seems that even the likes of Amnesty International are into it. :|

Well that’s just too bad… if only the West wasn’t so corrupt we might have had some trust in its reporting but alas…

The situation is so pathetic that I’d sooner trust a N.Korean article than junk stemming from the US or the UK.

As for Tim not knowing what constitutes genocide… he can always look up the definition as initially described by... (forgot the Jew’s name). :?

He’ll unpleasantly discover that what his country is/was doing in places like Iraq and Afghanistan is genocide.
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:35 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:No it's fake news.


It's very trendy. It appears that absolutely anything which doesn't fit a particular agenda nowadays instantly becomes "fake news".

It's a bit like 'conspiracy theories' ..... this can only be a theory as there is no credible evidence? It was attained by interviewing 84 people, none of whom are identified and about whom in most cases very little is known. We should not jump to conclusions, based simply on dramatic headlines

It seems that even the likes of Amnesty International are into it. :|

Amnesty have been caught out before .... telling porkies or distortions of the facts.


If ..... and it is a big IF .... it is true as presented then it is certainly mass murder and probably crimes against humanity.

I watched the author of the report being interviewed. She says she interviewed 84 people most of whom were civilians or officials. But she had no physical evidence only these statements. The descriptions were of hearing people being hanged, in the middle of the night, in underground cells. What does a hanging sound like ...... anyone know? :roll: They were never seen again! But has it occurred to anyone that these people were maybe being released .... just like those that gave their interviews were?

The bodies were all buried 'near Damascus' .......... I am surprised nobody noticed the activity, lights, excavators and trucks at night ........ or the smell?

Not so long ago a deserter from the Syrian Army claimed he had been employed by the Government to photograph 20,000 victims of Assad’s torture. He went by the code name Caesar so that he could not be indentified ...... how many photographers does Assad have taking pictures of torture victims? He was a mystery figure that no one seemed to know anything about. But that didn’t stop an exhibition of some of these pictures being set up in the UN (?) as evidence of Assad’s brutality and I am sure Amnesty were involved in that as well.

It turned out that they were photographs that hospitals take when victims are not identified. These are saved so that relatives looking for missing members of the family could maybe identify them from the photos. The bodies came from everywhere from children, women, old people, bomb victims, dead soldiers, natural deaths, dead terrorists, foreigners etc. some were even decomposed and of course some that had died from torture. But there was nothing to say who the torturers were. Many had tags tied to the toes, typical of hospital procedures so that in place of a name they have a tag reference for records after the remains have been disposed of.

The event hit the headlines at the time and Assad stood accused but it all turned out to be something that was not what it seemed. The story was proven some weeks later as seriously flawed but it was never corrected on the MSM.

So, until there is some evidence to support the claims of those that were interviewed it would be impossible to authenticate, so equally impossible to lay blame.

At the moment I would give it a probability of being less than 50% of being true as it is presented. We now need to wait a couple of weeks or more before there is any feedback on the independent news sites. But you will never see this retracted in the MSM if it turns out to be a bit of ‘fake news’. So you will need to be a visitor to these independent (Fake News ?) sites or you will never know the end of the story. :roll: :wink:
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:43 pm

Did I just watch a couple of cartoons?
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Cap » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:13 pm

miltiades wrote:Killing in these countries is ...part of life, a cultural thing if you like !!


That's about right.
As usual, Muslims slaughtering Muslims.

Of course the West will be to blame as if these people have no brains to tell the diifference between right and wrong.
As if killing your own people..... 'Western collaborators' is somehow better than educating your own people about the Western 'demons'.

Yet nobody questions the anachronistic belief system.
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Re: Is this genocide?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:56 pm

Cap wrote:
miltiades wrote:Killing in these countries is ...part of life, a cultural thing if you like !!


That's about right.
As usual, Muslims slaughtering Muslims.

Of course the West will be to blame as if these people have no brains to tell the diifference between right and wrong.
As if killing your own people..... 'Western collaborators' is somehow better than educating your own people about the Western 'demons'.

Yet nobody questions the anachronistic belief system.

Not according to statistics...

The honors go to 1. Honduras, 2. El Salvador, 3. Venezuela

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate

If you sort the table by “subregion” you'll find that "Western Asia" countries (meaning the ME) have very low crime rates.


Once again your brain and that of Miltiades (no surprises there!), FAIL you because you just don't have the mental capacity to retrieve, analyze, sort and comprehend readily available information.
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