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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:38 pm

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Allegations ...... alleged ...... suggested ....... using an alias ...... believed to be ........ yes, it seems to have all the hallmarks of a greatly exaggerated and fabricated accusation based on very little evidence showing it had anything to do with Russia or Putin.

"Agence France-Presse and Reuters contributed to this report " in other words a syndicated article ......... Nuff said!!! :roll: :wink:


As with all the causes that you adopt, there is absolutely nothing which puts Russia in even the faintest of bad lights that you would accept. From any source, be it respected global media sites to the likes of the UN/ICC/GC/ECHR.

This, whilst you eagerly digest - and tend to repeat verbatim - absolutely anything which originates from Russian State media (laughably presented as unbiased), or other fringe websites which you use that are packed with anti-Western articles. It's all **confirmation bias**. Then, in the next breath you berate people for their supposed "gullibility/naivety".

I've never managed to work out whether you actually believe a lot of the stuff you post, or just get off on playing Devil's Advocate whilst having a bit of larf.



**** "the tendency to search for, interpret, favour, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:47 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:WTF is a ductator . :lol:

He duct tapes the opponent's mouths. :lol:
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:54 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:


Allegations ...... alleged ...... suggested ....... using an alias ...... believed to be ........ yes, it seems to have all the hallmarks of a greatly exaggerated and fabricated accusation based on very little evidence showing it had anything to do with Russia or Putin.

"Agence France-Presse and Reuters contributed to this report " in other words a syndicated article ......... Nuff said!!! :roll: :wink:


As with all the causes that you adopt, there is absolutely nothing which puts Russia in even the faintest of bad lights that you would accept. From any source, be it respected global media sites to the likes of the UN/ICC/GC/ECHR.

This, whilst you eagerly digest - and tend to repeat verbatim - absolutely anything which originates from Russian State media (laughably presented as unbiased), or other fringe websites which you use that are packed with anti-Western articles. It's all **confirmation bias**. Then, in the next breath you berate people for their supposed "gullibility/naivety".

I've never managed to work out whether you actually believe a lot of the stuff you post, or just get off on playing Devil's Advocate whilst having a bit of larf.



**** "the tendency to search for, interpret, favour, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."


Have you ever considered that this actually applies to YOU!!! More ad hominem comments..... yes? All personal .... you have done it before which is why nobody will engage with you in a serious discussion on your chosen Forum ..... you have been accused of treating the forum as your personal blog, so you follow me here.

As they would say on this Forum ..... f**k-off! :x

FYI: I look at a story, whatever interests me, from any source. Unlike you and Paphitis I don't limit myself to favoured sources I know will agree with me.

If a source says US pilots are directed by the US military to deliberately bomb schools, hospitals and children's playgrounds or deliberately target pregnant women, children and old people, I would apply common sense and give it the same credibility as I would if the alleged culprit was Russian. Basically ..... it would make no sense ..... it is not what any ordinary civilised person would do deliberately. However you are driven by a 50's cold war mentallity that promotes natural hatred of anything Russian or Iranian and that determines your concept of any event.

You are quick to condemn Russia for breaching International Law but just ignore any suggestion that the US and its allies are also guilty. They declare themselves 'exceptional' and beyond international law, instigate coups and regime change around the world, have killed millions and are now even using DU munitions in Syria (Think back ... Fallujah, or do you blame Putin for that as well? :roll: ) ..... and you think I have bias? I am sure that if a Russian was caught murdering dying coalition prisoners, you would want him hung, drawn and quartered ...... but put him in a British uniform and you would 'understand' and give him a medal. You project double standards ..... I am no doubt Paphitis will be the first to congratulate you on your contribution .... but he comes from the same school of thought as you do.

Just reported on RT ..... a vehicle with several high ranking Russians on board has been blown up by an IED on an open road in Syria. Has RT made any accusations? NO! They just reported the news/facts! Had it been coalition senior people, your favoured channels would immediately accuse Russia/Assad of being behind it . It would be par for the course because they had to get their intelligence from some where ..... therefore it must be the Russians ? But from the 'Putin's mouthpiece TV channel', no accusations .. .. just the report. Funny ole thing .... but that is usually the way they report, very rarely do they accuse.

Let's see if you see that on your favoured news sources? :roll:
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:23 am


Bollocks! The news of these allegations is widely known.
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:26 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:

Bollocks! The news of these allegations is widely known.


Exactly .... ALLEGATIONS!

Is the story fake? No of course not, they arrested and have tried Serbian nationals. They deported the suspects that were Russian, so they didn't have much on them otherwise they would have arrested them and tried them and they didn't! As for the hype it was all down to Russian State sponsorship and went right to the top (i.e. Putin) ....... it is all supposition, not a shred of evidence to show that it was even remotely true. Everything said by various officials and a prosecutor comes down to allegations with no proof ..... that to me makes it very likely a fake news story until some proof comes to light.

If you believe all this hype about Putin, you have to admire him? He must be an extremely cleaver man to be able to Dictate the Russian economy, run the Russian Mafia, interfere in elections in the US, swing the vote for POTUS, interfere in elections of several European countries, whilst planning an invasion of all the old Warsaw Pact countries, fighting a war in Ukraine, fighting a war in Syria ........... and at the same time he is making billions of dollars illegally to become the worlds richest man ...... apparently as much as $800bn .... according to Paphitis. :roll:

Takes a bit of believing don't you think? :wink:
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:07 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:

Bollocks! The news of these allegations is widely known.


Exactly .... ALLEGATIONS!

Is the story fake? No of course not, they arrested and have tried Serbian nationals. They deported the suspects that were Russian, so they didn't have much on them otherwise they would have arrested them and tried them and they didn't! As for the hype it was all down to Russian State sponsorship and went right to the top (i.e. Putin) ....... it is all supposition, not a shred of evidence to show that it was even remotely true. Everything said by various officials and a prosecutor comes down to allegations with no proof ..... that to me makes it very likely a fake news story until some proof comes to light.

If you believe all this hype about Putin, you have to admire him? He must be an extremely cleaver man to be able to Dictate the Russian economy, run the Russian Mafia, interfere in elections in the US, swing the vote for POTUS, interfere in elections of several European countries, whilst planning an invasion of all the old Warsaw Pact countries, fighting a war in Ukraine, fighting a war in Syria ........... and at the same time he is making billions of dollars illegally to become the worlds richest man ...... apparently as much as $800bn .... according to Paphitis. :roll:

Takes a bit of believing don't you think? :wink:


No to me it does not take much believing about some of it: I have not seen any report about US$ 800 Billion - some reports suggest US$ 200 Billion and saner reports suggest between US$ 40 B and US$ 70 Billion. The wealth attraction comes as he and his cronies run the country, so can tap straight into it.

"Everything that belongs to the territory of the Russian Federation Putin considers to be his," Russian businessman Sergei Pugachev, an estranged friend of Putin's, told The Guardian. "Everything – Gazprom, Rosneft, private companies. Any attempt to calculate it won't succeed. ... He's the richest person in the world until he leaves power."


Much otherwise comes from "Commissions" paid by people who want a slice of the pie they can sell on. Corruption is rife.

Ukraine is a good illustrator of the rebuilding of the Soviet Empire

I have family in and from Russia BTW, so I do occasionally get an inside track on what some Russians are thinking - many Russians here are wives and girlfriends and their Children send out either for safety = the gangsters have declared Cyprus a Neutral Zone = and/or cheaper private education in English Curriculum - the rest are just keeping their heads down.
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:29 pm

You really should calm down. If you sat on your hands for a while before replying, instead of firing of one of your famous hissy-fit posts, you wouldn't come across as sounding so hysterical. Not that you have ever been one to take advice - even the good variety - from absolutely anybody.

Robin Hood wrote:...... you have done it before which is why nobody will engage with you in a serious discussion on your chosen Forum ..... you have been accused of treating the forum as your personal blog, so you follow me here.

I see you're still the epitome of discretion and confidentiality. :lol: I'm tempted to drag in some of the sagas you provoked/engaged in and the (real) reason you left. As opposed to the cult-of-the-victim one that you tend to dispense.

As far as following you is concerned? Well, two people tipped me off about your exploits here and of course I couldn't resist. Like they said about Hannibal Lecter, "so rare to be able to observe one". :lol:

I'm quite comfortable with my "chosen Forum" (well, Forums actually) and have many serious discussions: however, also humorous (you will need to Google that) and generalised ones as well. I don't just confine myself to the "Politics" sections. :wink: As far as my "personal blog" goes, that's an inaccurate distortion. As you well know. You should get a job at RT. :lol:

Robin Hood wrote: More ad hominem comments..... yes? All personal ....

Do you mean like this:

Robin Hood wrote:At least an arsehole has a use ..... which is more than you have. You contribute little of value to any debate.

you can't even read plain simple English

How sad ......you live in fantasy world !

OK, I realise you are mentally challenged, so I'll try and make it easier for you

a bit hypocritical of you seeing as the only time we meet is on this Forum where your lack of any real knowledge is only too evident.

why don't you apply for permanent citizenship and immigrate?

Who’s the proven idiot now then? Boy do you make yourself look stupid with your links?

Well .... more rubbish

commenting on an assumed guess at what you didn’t read! How dumb is that? Your credibility is plunging into negative territory.

Look in the mirror ..... now THAT is an idiot!

I am afraid it is you that soaks up the rubbish as your constant failures clearly demonstrate.

You just confirm your ignorance !

Arrogant, misguided, self opinionated, delusional, with an extremist attitude and ever so slightly biased, maybe ...... but weak, no, that I will give you credit for.

as for the rest of your opinionated post

you are not well informed, you are just a mouthpiece

Anyone with a brain could see that,

For a self proclaimed educated man you don't understand English too well

NO ONE has lower morals and more extreme prejudices than you. Almost every post they shine through!

Did you scope the one about "Hypocritical"?

Robin Hood wrote:FYI: I look at a story, whatever interests me, from any source. Unlike you and Paphitis I don't limit myself to favoured sources I know will agree with me.

:lol: :lol: :lol: But that's exactly what you do! Whatever you supposedly look at. IIRC you used to boast that amongst others you read an Israeli paper every day. It wasn't of course because you had the slightest interest in it's contents but rather to enable you to adopt a veneer of supposed objectivity.

I can't speak for Paphitis but personally rarely post links (particularly with you - where it's a total waste of time). So quite how you have identified my "favoured sources" is a mystery to me.

Yours are the likes of:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

http://theduran.com/

and a few select but essentially similar others.

Even a cursory glance at the titles in them shows that they're stuffed full of anti-western, pro-Russian articles.

Then you're off again on another anti-US rant. Comfort zone. I'm not going to quote. It's all "drivel" as somebody once said.

You're an apologist for Dictators. Putin, Assad, Khameini. I've little personal doubt you're actually quite fond of Kim Jong-un. All "strong" and decisive leaders - much to be admired. Conversely in the 4/5 years I've known you I can't remember a time when you didn't vociferously express total contempt for your own country and the West in general.

I don't really see the point of the RT news flash (ignoring all the ridiculous additions). It demonstrates their neutrality - objectivity? It's a State media outfit in a bloody dictatorship, for goodness sake! Do you really think they have a total free hand in what they disseminate and that subtle disinformation isn't part of their brief? You seem to harbour the quaint view that dictatorial broadcast agencies play somber martial music and praise the "Great Leader" 24/7. Things have moved on a pace you know? Nowadays they tend to be aiming at the "useful idiot" brigade. Well, you know what I mean.

The Montenegro story is of course obviously fake. There was no plot, hatched and overseen by Russians, for a Serbian hit-squad to bump off the pro-West, pro-joining NATO Prime Minister, in favour of the pro-Russian opposition leader. Ridiculous! :roll: What on earth interest could the Russians have in something like that? You should rush out a post to highlight their innocence, before some idiots get the wrong idea.

Robin Hood wrote:As they would say on this Forum ..... f**k-off! :x

That's not nice. Especially coming from an old social friend and neighbour. I find it quite disturbing. Be your normal much-loved, nice self. :wink:
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:46 pm

Yes Robin, do try and be like ....Miltiades :lol: :lol:
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:50 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
No to me it does not take much believing about some of it: I have not seen any report about US$ 800 Billion - some reports suggest US$ 200 Billion and saner reports suggest between US$ 40 B and US$ 70 Billion. The wealth attraction comes as he and his cronies run the country, so can tap straight into it.



Here you ave to use your own judgement. Russia's GNP is only 250 Bn.
If one man alone can drag so much money it would need 3-5 GNPs to satisfy the whole group of cronies.
Such huge amounts of wealth are impossible to hide, let aside move around.
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Re: Why is Russia so dangerous?

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:58 pm

miltiades wrote:Yes Robin, do try and be like ....Miltiades :lol: :lol:


Time for some of that very agreeable Chilean Shiraz here, methinks. :idea: 8) :wink:
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