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Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby tsukoui » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:09 pm

I am dismayed that those who claim to be healers could not keep Martin McGuinness alive past the age of 66, but his spirit lives on. One of the major differences between Ireland and Cyprus is that in Ireland Sinn Fein contends across the divide. I believe this is impossible in Cyprus due to the bludgeoning of Turkey, are there any attempts to challenge this? Tessekur Ederim.
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:35 pm

tsukoui wrote:I am dismayed that those who claim to be healers could not keep Martin McGuinness alive past the age of 66, but his spirit lives on. One of the major differences between Ireland and Cyprus is that in Ireland Sinn Fein contends across the divide. I believe this is impossible in Cyprus due to the bludgeoning of Turkey, are there any attempts to challenge this? Tessekur Ederim.


Akel is a leftist party, and as such has very close relations with the Turkish Cypriot Leftist parties in the occupied part of Cyprus.
It's an oxymoron for Akel to try challenging the illegal regime from within, because that would mean recognizing the illegal regime as something legal on the first place.

NB. Are you a Turkish Cypriot, or a Greek Cypriot who just knows a few words like "thank you" in Turkish?
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby Zenon33 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:40 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
tsukoui wrote:I am dismayed that those who claim to be healers could not keep Martin McGuinness alive past the age of 66, but his spirit lives on. One of the major differences between Ireland and Cyprus is that in Ireland Sinn Fein contends across the divide. I believe this is impossible in Cyprus due to the bludgeoning of Turkey, are there any attempts to challenge this? Tessekur Ederim.


Akel is a leftist party, and as such has very close relations with the Turkish Cypriot Leftist parties in the occupied part of Cyprus.
It's an oxymoron for Akel to try challenging the illegal regime from within, because that would mean recognizing the illegal regime as something legal on the first place.

NB. Are you a Turkish Cypriot, or a Greek Cypriot who just knows a few words like "thank you" in Turkish?




TC's in RoC votes for Akel, too.
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby tsukoui » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:07 pm

I am mixed British-(or Scottish)-Cypriot. With regards to my "Turkishness" or "Greekness", I really don't know, my father grew up speaking Greek to Christian parents, but my surname seems to derive from a region in Turkey and my oldest ancestor, as far back as we can trace, was a iannisseri. I speak neither Turkish nor Greek fluently, but have learned some formal structured vocabulary and phrases of both from the internet. My dream is to speak naturally, but I believe that will take some tuning.

With regards to AKEL in the north as an oxymoron, I see the point about not wishing to recognise the illegal pseudo-elections. However, Sinn Fein used to stand in the elections for the British parliament and not take their seats when they won, in effect not recognising them, whilst proving their support. Also, are there MPs representing the occupied regions in the RoC? What is to stop AKEL (or any other party for that matter) contesting for representing those in the North, with the actual voting taking place in the free part of the country (Nicosia for example)? Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but it seems to me that as Cypriots we could be doing more to organise in a united way, ignoring the artificial partition, and bringing such organisation under a single structure would do much to facilitate this.

Once again, I normally shun comparisons with Ireland, but the following article shows the progress that is being made: http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/03/17/it-s-now-clear-northern-ireland-is-leaving-the-union
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:57 pm

tsukoui wrote:I am mixed British-(or Scottish)-Cypriot. With regards to my "Turkishness" or "Greekness", I really don't know, my father grew up speaking Greek to Christian parents, but my surname seems to derive from a region in Turkey and my oldest ancestor, as far back as we can trace, was a iannisseri. I speak neither Turkish nor Greek fluently, but have learned some formal structured vocabulary and phrases of both from the internet. My dream is to speak naturally, but I believe that will take some tuning.

With regards to AKEL in the north as an oxymoron, I see the point about not wishing to recognise the illegal pseudo-elections. However, Sinn Fein used to stand in the elections for the British parliament and not take their seats when they won, in effect not recognising them, whilst proving their support. Also, are there MPs representing the occupied regions in the RoC? What is to stop AKEL (or any other party for that matter) contesting for representing those in the North, with the actual voting taking place in the free part of the country (Nicosia for example)? Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but it seems to me that as Cypriots we could be doing more to organise in a united way, ignoring the artificial partition, and bringing such organisation under a single structure would do much to facilitate this.

Once again, I normally shun comparisons with Ireland, but the following article shows the progress that is being made: http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/03/17/it-s-now-clear-northern-ireland-is-leaving-the-union

You omitted to mention that you have a Greek name !
How are you mate, enjoyed talking to you. Keep well .
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:35 pm

miltiades wrote:You omitted to mention that you have a Greek name !
How are you mate, enjoyed talking to you. Keep well .

Why are you pretending to be civilized when everyone here knows you’re just a mongrel? :?
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You omitted to mention that you have a Greek name !
How are you mate, enjoyed talking to you. Keep well .

Why are you pretending to be civilized when everyone here knows you’re just a mongrel? :?

I know who my father and mother were, do you ?
You know something, Im thinking of coming over to Nicosia, M , and give you a piece of my mind, you arrogant little shit.
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:51 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You omitted to mention that you have a Greek name !
How are you mate, enjoyed talking to you. Keep well .

Why are you pretending to be civilized when everyone here knows you’re just a mongrel? :?

I know who my father and mother were, do you ?
You know something, Im thinking of coming over to Nicosia, M , and give you a piece of my mind, you arrogant little shit.

But you’re too small and bound to get hurt… :?

And besides... you say I'm a psycho so it's like telling Norman Bates... "I'm coming over to get you" and he'll be like... "Yes please!" :lol:
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You omitted to mention that you have a Greek name !
How are you mate, enjoyed talking to you. Keep well .

Why are you pretending to be civilized when everyone here knows you’re just a mongrel? :?

I know who my father and mother were, do you ?
You know something, Im thinking of coming over to Nicosia, M , and give you a piece of my mind, you arrogant little shit.

But you’re too small and bound to get hurt… :?

And besides... you say I'm a psycho so it's like telling Norman Bates... "I'm coming over to get you" and he'll be like... "Yes please!" :lol:

Psychos are no problem with me malaka. :lol:
I can take you on with one hand behind my back and the other holding a glass of wine as well as a.... toilet roll as you are bound to shit your self :lol:
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Re: Is AKEL illegal in the North?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:44 pm

tsukoui wrote:I am mixed British-(or Scottish)-Cypriot. With regards to my "Turkishness" or "Greekness", I really don't know, my father grew up speaking Greek to Christian parents, but my surname seems to derive from a region in Turkey and my oldest ancestor, as far back as we can trace, was a iannisseri. I speak neither Turkish nor Greek fluently, but have learned some formal structured vocabulary and phrases of both from the internet. My dream is to speak naturally, but I believe that will take some tuning.

With regards to AKEL in the north as an oxymoron, I see the point about not wishing to recognise the illegal pseudo-elections. However, Sinn Fein used to stand in the elections for the British parliament and not take their seats when they won, in effect not recognising them, whilst proving their support. Also, are there MPs representing the occupied regions in the RoC? What is to stop AKEL (or any other party for that matter) contesting for representing those in the North, with the actual voting taking place in the free part of the country (Nicosia for example)? Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but it seems to me that as Cypriots we could be doing more to organise in a united way, ignoring the artificial partition, and bringing such organisation under a single structure would do much to facilitate this.

Once again, I normally shun comparisons with Ireland, but the following article shows the progress that is being made: http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/03/17/it-s-now-clear-northern-ireland-is-leaving-the-union


Wow Tsouk, you really surprised me. :!:
First time I didn't have to read your post twice to get the meaning.
Your questions are those of someone who is outside,Still valid though.
I will try answering them later.
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