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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:53 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Why not just quote unreasonable behavior or irreconcilable differences? Let them keep the joint property interests in return for a clean break divorce and no maintenance! :roll: :D


Too repetitive imo and possibly contradictory on the main issue. Only God knows how this "deep and special partnership" won't be "cherry picking" on the four freedoms themselves.

That is why the United Kingdom does not seek membership of the single market: we understand and respect your position that the four freedoms of the single market are indivisible and there can be no “cherry picking”.

As I have said, the Government of the United Kingdom wants to agree a deep and special partnership between the UK and the EU


Frankly, I thought it was a case of 'Information Overload'! Tusk (The guy with the haircut) said the UK could not negotiate trade partnerships until it had issued A-50. Now he is saying that the UK cannot negotiate trade deals with EU members until the UK has left the EU. Isn't that a bit like not being able to apply for a new job until you have left the old one? What is going to bog all this down, and the EU Commissioners are masters at it, is bureaucracy and legal argument. They will make it as difficult and complex as possible. :roll: :x :x
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:32 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I keep meaning to get my application in for citizenship so that I can join you and retain my EU rights. I lived in Scotland for fifteen years, have Scottish highers and graduated from a Scottish university. I wonder if that will count for anything towards getting Scottish citizenship? Sadly, it's a case of each man and woman for themself as the ship goes down. I know my neice and her husband, currently working as school teachers in the UK, are applying for jobs abroad. As to the idiots who believe the pap served up to them by the likes of Rupert Murdoch that 'Post-Brexit Britain is booming' and the architects of 'project fear' are eating 'humble pie', well, they will have to learn the hard way that the negative effects of Brexit will only be felt after it happens.


I will be joining you in looking for an EU Citizenship.

Despite the allusions of some I have never been in favour of Grexit or a break up of the EU (reform may be) nor for that matter Brexit. What would happen to ordinary Greeks if Greece were to leave the Euro fills me with abhorance. Some here do not seem to read that part but simply because I post what is relatively live news about a continuing issue, about which we should be concerned, I get attacked. Same with the possibility that the EU had the ability to temporarily take Greece out of the open borders of Schengen: some here might think they have a victory over me, as that did not happen, but as it was not what I wanted, it was not a victory.

Same that expressing concern about the closure of Orphanides and effects on employees, suppliers, etc., meant I was hoping for the demise of the ROC....

I share your concern that it is too early to see the results of Brexit - the Brexiteers have delusions about Britain's place in the World.

I do also support the idea of the abolition of the SBA. as a part of whatever comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem there may be, against the backdrop that absent a settlement I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:36 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I keep meaning to get my application in for citizenship so that I can join you and retain my EU rights. I lived in Scotland for fifteen years, have Scottish highers and graduated from a Scottish university. I wonder if that will count for anything towards getting Scottish citizenship? Sadly, it's a case of each man and woman for themself as the ship goes down. I know my neice and her husband, currently working as school teachers in the UK, are applying for jobs abroad. As to the idiots who believe the pap served up to them by the likes of Rupert Murdoch that 'Post-Brexit Britain is booming' and the architects of 'project fear' are eating 'humble pie', well, they will have to learn the hard way that the negative effects of Brexit will only be felt after it happens.


I will be joining you in looking for an EU Citizenship.

Despite the allusions of some I have never been in favour of Grexit or a break up of the EU (reform may be) nor for that matter Brexit. What would happen to ordinary Greeks if Greece were to leave the Euro fills me with abhorance. Some here do not seem to read that part but simply because I post what is relatively live news about a continuing issue, about which we should be concerned, I get attacked. Same with the possibility that the EU had the ability to temporarily take Greece out of the open borders of Schengen: some here might think they have a victory over me, as that did not happen, but as it was not what I wanted, it was not a victory.

Same that expressing concern about the closure of Orphanides and effects on employees, suppliers, etc., meant I was hoping for the demise of the ROC....

I share your concern that it is too early to see the results of Brexit - the Brexiteers have delusions about Britain's place in the World.

I do also support the idea of the abolition of the SBA. as a part of whatever comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem there may be, against the backdrop that absent a settlement I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.


The snag with applying for citizenship here - and I meet the residential qualification myself - is I am told that they just put applications on the back burner and years, even decades go by without you hearing anything. On the other hand, I am told that once you have an application in, your status in Cyprus if frozen until you get a reply, and in many ways that is all you need.
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:09 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I keep meaning to get my application in for citizenship so that I can join you and retain my EU rights. I lived in Scotland for fifteen years, have Scottish highers and graduated from a Scottish university. I wonder if that will count for anything towards getting Scottish citizenship? Sadly, it's a case of each man and woman for themself as the ship goes down. I know my neice and her husband, currently working as school teachers in the UK, are applying for jobs abroad. As to the idiots who believe the pap served up to them by the likes of Rupert Murdoch that 'Post-Brexit Britain is booming' and the architects of 'project fear' are eating 'humble pie', well, they will have to learn the hard way that the negative effects of Brexit will only be felt after it happens.


I will be joining you in looking for an EU Citizenship.

Despite the allusions of some I have never been in favour of Grexit or a break up of the EU (reform may be) nor for that matter Brexit. What would happen to ordinary Greeks if Greece were to leave the Euro fills me with abhorance. Some here do not seem to read that part but simply because I post what is relatively live news about a continuing issue, about which we should be concerned, I get attacked. Same with the possibility that the EU had the ability to temporarily take Greece out of the open borders of Schengen: some here might think they have a victory over me, as that did not happen, but as it was not what I wanted, it was not a victory.

Same that expressing concern about the closure of Orphanides and effects on employees, suppliers, etc., meant I was hoping for the demise of the ROC....

I share your concern that it is too early to see the results of Brexit - the Brexiteers have delusions about Britain's place in the World.

I do also support the idea of the abolition of the SBA. as a part of whatever comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem there may be, against the backdrop that absent a settlement I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.


The snag with applying for citizenship here - and I meet the residential qualification myself - is I am told that they just put applications on the back burner and years, even decades go by without you hearing anything. On the other hand, I am told that once you have an application in, your status in Cyprus if frozen until you get a reply, and in many ways that is all you need.


Tim, go ahead and put your application in, otherwise nothing will get done for you. Start the ball rolling, at least.
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:41 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote: ... I have never been in favour of Grexit


And yet you were the FIRST to bring up such an idea 5 years ago and have diligently kept the flame burning to propagate (and hence possibly make 'true') the idea that a Grexit is just around the corner! Be true to yourself, liar!
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:47 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote: I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.


What makes you think the presence of the SBAs keeps the fucking Turks away?

It never worked in 1974! Why do you think you can fool us that keeping the Bases on Cyprus is some kind of safeguard against Turks? Imperialist idiot!

Cyprus is in the EU - it has Germany, France etc now to safeguard against further Turkshit encroachment and, in time, the EU will rid the Turks from Cyprus-EU as there will be NO British influence to support the (present) Turkish presence on Cyprus!

- The opposite of what you try and portray! Imperialist idiot.
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:11 pm

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supporttheunderdog wrote: I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.


What makes you think the presence of the SBAs keeps the fucking Turks away?

It never worked in 1974! Why do you think you can fool us that keeping the Bases on Cyprus is some kind of safeguard against Turks? Imperialist idiot!

Cyprus is in the EU - it has Germany, France etc now to safeguard against further Turkshit encroachment and, in time, the EU will rid the Turks from Cyprus-EU as there will be NO British influence to support the (present) Turkish presence on Cyprus!

- The opposite of what you try and portray! Imperialist idiot.


:? :roll:
This is not what he said!
It is almost certain that if the British abandon the base at Dhekelia the Turkish occupation force will get in and grab half of it.
This is a known "secret"
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:57 am

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote: I would not put it past the Turks to roll into at least a part of the ESBA (possibly Ay Nik) the day Britain pulls out. Again not what I want.


What makes you think the presence of the SBAs keeps the fucking Turks away?

It never worked in 1974! Why do you think you can fool us that keeping the Bases on Cyprus is some kind of safeguard against Turks? Imperialist idiot!

Cyprus is in the EU - it has Germany, France etc now to safeguard against further Turkshit encroachment and, in time, the EU will rid the Turks from Cyprus-EU as there will be NO British influence to support the (present) Turkish presence on Cyprus!

- The opposite of what you try and portray! Imperialist idiot.


:? :roll:
This is not what he said!
It is almost certain that if the British abandon the base at Dhekelia the Turkish occupation force will get in and grab half of it.
This is a known "secret"


It's part of the whole picture. This is another scare tactic typical of the way Britain behaves to secure or justify their hold on things. Why would Turkey try something like that on EU territory? Even now Germany is considering moving its jets to be based in Cyprus (and probably at the Bases). Just wait and see the development of the EU Army now Britain won't be able to object.
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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:57 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
It's part of the whole picture. This is another scare tactic typical of the way Britain behaves to secure or justify their hold on things. Why would Turkey try something like that on EU territory? Even now Germany is considering moving its jets to be based in Cyprus (and probably at the Bases). Just wait and see the development of the EU Army now Britain won't be able to object.


Because the EU is not as solid as you think. What did the EU do when they advanced in Strovilia? What did the UN do?
Fyi Germany is looking to station its jets not only in Cyprus but in 5 more candidate countries Jordan, Egypt et al included.
If and when the EU army ever gets formed then we can talk again, for the moment just

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Re: BREXIT Countdown - Bye Bye Britain, Bye Bye!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:36 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
It's part of the whole picture. This is another scare tactic typical of the way Britain behaves to secure or justify their hold on things. Why would Turkey try something like that on EU territory? Even now Germany is considering moving its jets to be based in Cyprus (and probably at the Bases). Just wait and see the development of the EU Army now Britain won't be able to object.


Because the EU is not as solid as you think. What did the EU do when they advanced in Strovilia? What did the UN do?
Fyi Germany is looking to station its jets not only in Cyprus but in 5 more candidate countries Jordan, Egypt et al included.
If and when the EU army ever gets formed then we can talk again, for the moment just

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Just wait and see .... Only thing remaining is to find out if our lot have been as quick to act as Spain:

The EU has put the future of Gibraltar at stake in the coming Brexit negotiations, effectively backing Spain in its centuries-old dispute with the UK over the British overseas territory.
After lobbying from Spanish diplomats, a clause has been inserted in the EU’s draft Brexit negotiating guidelines that appears to allow Spain to exclude Gibraltar from any transitional single market access arrangement or future trade deal with the UK if it is not satisfied with the status of the territory.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... gotiations
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