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Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:46 pm

I've been there dozens of times. You can "do" the place in 24 hours and to be honest I always felt a bit indifferent about it. Although, nothing gets the back up like a bully.

Anyway, suddenly I have become very pro-Gibraltarian!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... e-british/

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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:38 pm

Londonrake wrote:I've been there dozens of times. You can "do" the place in 24 hours and to be honest I always felt a bit indifferent about it. Although, nothing gets the back up like a bully.

Anyway, suddenly I have become very pro-Gibraltarian!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... e-british/

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As you pointed out the Spanish have these enclaves in North Africa and then criticise the UK over Gibraltar! Bloody hypocrites :roll: .............. at least Russia took Crimea with the agreement of 97% of the population!

The EU should give the people of Gibraltar a vote on self determination and I would make a guess that the result would be just about what Crimea voted followed by a referendum on annexation by the UK ! That should settle it, once and for all. :wink: :D
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Sotos » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:59 pm

Mayor of Gibraltar wrote:"We are British and always will be"


The great majority of Cypriots are Greek and always will be, but when we asked for a referendum for union with Greece the British refused and collaborated with the Turks (the previous colonialists) to deny democracy and freedom to Cyprus.
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:24 pm

Sotos wrote:
Mayor of Gibraltar wrote:"We are British and always will be"


The great majority of Cypriots are Greek and always will be, but when we asked for a referendum for union with Greece the British refused and collaborated with the Turks (the previous colonialists) to deny democracy and freedom to Cyprus.


I love this island and its people. I've been coming to Cyprus for 42 years. I've chosen to spend my twilight decade living here. Quite possible ending up being buried in such.

I have no knowledge of such a proposed referendum but take your word for it. Would the majority result though have realistically led to a different scenario to what transpired? Turkey and Greece were enemies and what do you think the obvious result of such a referendum would have led to?

I know I will be asking for flak from every direction here. However. You gained your independence but the desire for union with Greece led to the disastrous events in 1974 that brought about today's tragedy. It was not the fault of the British. It came down to the fascist military Junta in Greece and sympathetic elements here on the island.

Isn't this thread actually about Gibraltar though?
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Sotos » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:48 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Mayor of Gibraltar wrote:"We are British and always will be"


The great majority of Cypriots are Greek and always will be, but when we asked for a referendum for union with Greece the British refused and collaborated with the Turks (the previous colonialists) to deny democracy and freedom to Cyprus.


I love this island and its people. I've been coming to Cyprus for 42 years. I've chosen to spend my twilight decade living here. Quite possible ending up being buried in such.

I have no knowledge of such a proposed referendum but take your word for it. Would the majority result though have realistically led to a different scenario to what transpired? Turkey and Greece were enemies and what do you think the obvious result of such a referendum would have led to?

I know I will be asking for flak from every direction here. However. You gained your independence but the desire for union with Greece led to the disastrous events in 1974 that brought about today's tragedy. It was not the fault of the British. It came down to the fascist military Junta in Greece and sympathetic elements here on the island.

Isn't this thread actually about Gibraltar though?


Sorry mate but those are just excuses. We have been asking for union with Greece since at least the 1920s. Rhodes island, which is just a few kilometers from the coast of Turkey and which has a Turkish minority as well, united with Greece in late 1940s and Turkey didn't say anything about it. The difference: Rhodes used to be an Italian Colony and the Italians lost in WWII. Cyprus was under the British and the British didn't want to give Cyprus up. It is the British that steered up Turkey and involved them in Cyprus with the intention to create a bigger problem to us and force us to accept their bases.

You gained your independence but the desire for union with Greece led to the disastrous events in 1974 that brought about today's tragedy.


oh I see. So if tomorrow Spain with the support of EU invades and takes Gibraltar and ethnically cleanses all the British people, the conclusion will be that what led to this disaster is the desire of the Gibraltarians to be part of the UK? The same can be said for the Falklands, or Scotland... heck, you can say the same thing for London! That is just bs. Just like the people of Gibraltar, or Falklands or Scotland have the right to democratically choose to be part of the UK, the same goes for Cyprus and Greece and our desire to do what is our RIGHT can not be an excuse for any foreigners to invade us.
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:00 pm

Well, "excuses" all you want.

What occurred did so because of events and circumstances here and in Greece. Given what happened, the tragic outcome seemed obvious. If blaming others makes you feel better - so be it . However, I'm not here to provide you with someone you can bounce your angst off. Find somebody else.

Did you see the picture of the new Major of Gibraltar in her bikini though? Image
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:30 pm

Londonrake wrote:Anyway, suddenly I have become very pro-Gibraltarian!



And there we have the typical British attitude!

Another tax haven and money-laundering bit of soil for the British bigwigs to profit from whilst the plebs enjoy a bit of jingoism.

Rule Britannia!

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Who gives a monkey's when Cyprus has lost sooooo much from Royal-slaves like you?
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:47 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Anyway, suddenly I have become very pro-Gibraltarian!



And there we have the typical British attitude!

Another tax haven and money-laundering bit of soil for the British bigwigs to profit from whilst the plebs enjoy a bit of jingoism.

Rule Britannia!

:lol:

Who gives a monkey's when Cyprus has lost sooooo much from Royal-slaves like you?


Well, only in here I suppose can a pretty harmless and light-hearted post turn into yet a n other racist anti-British angst-fest. Don't you ever get tired of blaming absolutely everybody else for your problems?

Cyprus hasn't lost anything because of me - in fact I've pumped quite a lot into the place - and I have absolutely no idea WTF a "Royal slave" is. Enlighten me. Image

When it comes to money laundering -are you serious? If you take the trouble to look it up (and clearly you never do) you might just discover how relatively corrupt certain countries are. Check it out. Here's a little help. Your "bail in" was actually a lesson from your dear EU friends, the likes of Luxembourg and Germany, that you should stop messing with their business. :wink:

Meantime, get a life and perhaps start taking posts in the tone that they are presented. Instead of regarding absolutely anything from a source like me as yet another opportunity to apportion racist and xenophobic blame and talk about how hard done by you are, due to absolutely everybody else's conspiracies. :roll:
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby Zenon33 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:46 pm

Sotos wrote:
Mayor of Gibraltar wrote:"We are British and always will be"


The great majority of Cypriots are Greek and always will be, but when we asked for a referendum for union with Greece the British refused and collaborated with the Turks (the previous colonialists) to deny democracy and freedom to Cyprus.



Majority of cypriots now want an independent state, not a union with a failed state like Greece.
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Re: Gibraltar

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:48 pm

Londonrake wrote:Meantime, get a life and perhaps start taking posts in the tone that they are presented.


Says the OP who starts a thread about retaining sovereignty over "Gibraltar" on a Cyprus Forum! :roll:
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