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Re: My little Churc

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:12 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:You are the one wishing to erect the edifice for your self serving purposes, to fulfil some emotional need, not me.


Yes, I'm not pretending I'm doing it for a higher purpose. It's scrubland that can't be built on (easily). My mother loved the plot/view. A small church/temple/retreat will suit this spot wonderfully.
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Re: My little Churc

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:13 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are the one wishing to erect the edifice for your self serving purposes, to fulfil some emotional need, not me.


Yes, I'm not pretending I'm doing it for a higher purpose. It's scrubland that can't be built on (easily). My mother loved the plot/view. A small church/temple/retreat will suit this spot wonderfully.


Scrubland or not you can turn it into a beautiful orchard for as low as 1000 Euros.That's what I did. There's nothing that relaxes me more than been there. If your mother loved nature and you beleive her spirit is around then that should please her. You can also place one of those little prefabricated churches under the trees for the times you need to pray.
I think just building a church in that place would be totally meaningless, I mean what are you going to do there, pray all the time??

Besides you have to think of the risk of Lordo building a floating mosque in the sea right in front of you. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: My little Church.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:38 pm

If you wish to erect a structure of any sort then this might be of interest: it is a power point guide to planning laws and applications, on the Govermment website.http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/moi.nsf/all/40D9E8853DB716EFC2257B360024E3F4/$file/STREETS%20AND%20BUILDINGS%20LAW%20AND%20REGULATION%20PRESENTATION%2022-3-2013.pptx?openelement

In brief
1) There will be an area Development plan of some sort defining permitted land use and development
2) Two applications must be made and permits must be obtained before building can start
a) an application to and permit from the competent Planning Authority, which should assess whether the proposed development is compatible with the provisions of the Town and Country Planning Legislation, the provisions of the relevant published Development Plan and any other material consideration.
b) After the issuing of the planning permit, an application needs to be submitted to the designated Building Authority, and after its examination a building permit is granted.Applications for a building permit should in general be in conformity with the planning permit and the conditions included in the permit and the provisions of the Streets and Buildings Regulation Law and relevant Regulations, and the Building Authority.
Every such application is accompanied by the following documents:
 
The title deed of the land that will be the building site,
A site plan of the largest scale Government Survey Plan showing:
-The boundaries of the building site,
-The outline of the proposed building or the alteration or addition to any existing building in relation to those boundaries,
-The legal access to the plot,
-The area of the plot and the area covered by existing buildings and proposed buildings,
The Planning Permit, including the relevant conditions and the approved architectural plans,
Structural Drawings and Calculations,
Plans and Calculations for the electrical system of the building,
Plans and Calculations for the mechanical installations of the building,
Sewage Plans and details,
Other documents related to the authorization of the professional who is responsible for the design and the supervision of the building works on site,(see below)
Energy Efficiency Certificate and calculations.
The Local Authority has the right to impose terms to ensure that the proposed building is fit for the proposed use. These terms may concern eg. the sufficient provision of water, electricity, safety of disable people, the safety of mechanical and electrical installation, fire safety.

3) any building permit issued must not be materialized until the Local Authority is satisfied that the owner of the building has appointed a supervising engineer. The owner should also satisfied the Local Authority that the supervising engineer has been informed of the commencement of the works.
- The supervising engineer must ensure that no construction begins or is executed prior to the issue of a building permit.
- The supervising engineer must supervise all the stages of the works until the project is completed.
4) upon completion of the works and before the use of the building a Certificate of Approval must be issued by the Local Authority. The use of the building before the issue of the certificate is illegal
5) If the property developer has built illegally, the authorities have the power to issue a 'Demolition Order' requiring the illegal building to be pulled down!

If you wish to build legally then good luck getting permission.
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Re: My little Church.

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:15 pm

...indeed, it will be a challenge; tread carefully.

...in any case, it is not the first time that someone has built a church (or a chapel) for themselves; brother Andre comes to mind.

And Fidel Castro comes to mind; i ask why a Greek Orthodox Church? A Catholic, who for his life chose the way, i guess would build a church for God, for Faith, and for this greatness, balance, a recognition of some greater whole.

...build it they will come, as i said tread carefully.
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Re: My little Church.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:24 pm

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Re: My little Church.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:07 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:There are bigger ones too

https://contemporaryvernacular.wordpres ... rousel-265


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I had heard somewhere that our little star is not a large lady - and may even be small but perfectly formed - but I do not think she is that small, and as she has indicated she wishes to spend time in the building it would have to be a lot bigger -

see http://www.markaris.gr/eng/?page_id=6

Would even do the Greek economy some good buying one of these and getting permission to install it.
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Re: My little Church.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:08 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:There are bigger ones too

https://contemporaryvernacular.wordpres ... rousel-265


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I had heard somewhere that our little star is not a large lady - and may even be small but perfectly formed - but I do not think she is that small, and as she has indicated she wishes to spend time in the building it would have to be a lot bigger -

see http://www.markaris.gr/eng/?page_id=6

Would even do the Greek economy some good buying one of these and getting permission to install it.


Yes, bigger is better! :D

I do actually really like those, thanks. The stone Byzantine chapels are almost ideal. If you can put these up without planning permission, I'm sure I could have one built similar to these (but just a teeny bit bigger) and it shouldn't attract criticism. I have my own icon collection to decorate them with so I don't want them to come ready 'fresco-ed'.
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