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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:29 am

..."they" will collapse Turkey; it is a game of chicken, who will blink first.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:37 am

EU holds off halting Turkey membership talks

https://www.ft.com/content/9b6ea9c2-2c2 ... 28796fe35c

Big mistake. The new constitution, dispensing as it does with the separation of powers, disqualifies Turkey from EU membership.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Londonrake » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:11 pm

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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby B25 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:51 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:EU holds off halting Turkey membership talks

https://www.ft.com/content/9b6ea9c2-2c2 ... 28796fe35c

Big mistake. The new constitution, dispensing as it does with the separation of powers, disqualifies Turkey from EU membership.


Yes, but the EU likes the taste of Turkish c*ck, so they keep the door open for them!

What a corrupt organ, it's a good job the UK is getting the hell outta there.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:03 pm

This is a turn up for the book. The supreme administrative court, the Council of State, declined to hear the CHP's objections to the Supreme Election Council's decisions in the referendum that blatantly breach electoral law on the grounds that it has no jurisdiction over Supreme Election Council decisions. Well, somebody has unearthed the following: A past Council of State decision in which it rules on a Supreme Election Council decision:

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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby B25 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:32 pm

Tim, if you think that the powers of be in Turkey give 2 hoots about court rulings, you are in for a shock. Erdocunt will decide what goes period. Pulling up links, old rulings and what not, mate you are just pissing in the wind.

If you exercised as much effort in trying to remove turks from Cyprus, you would be doing us all a massive favour.

Turkey = Erdocunt.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:07 pm

It is true that Erdoğan is a fasist who has no respect or interest in the law. On the other hand, it is also true that he has not yet reached a postion in which he can fully circumvent the law.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:11 pm

If a madman with Neo-Ottoman delusions backed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia succeeds in taking over as dictator of Turkey and abandons Turkey's EU ambitions, far from wondering how to end Turkey's occupation of one-third of the island, I would be more inclined to wonder how long it will be before Turkey conquers the other two-thirds.
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:23 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:If a madman with Neo-Ottoman delusions backed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia succeeds in taking over as dictator of Turkey and abandons Turkey's EU ambitions, far from wondering how to end Turkey's occupation of one-third of the island, I would be more inclined to wonder how long it will be before Turkey conquers the other two-thirds.


You could always ask Trump to send a carrier battle fleet and a battery of THAAD missiles to install on the Green Line to deter their aggression? Oh, I forgot they are part of NATO ..... 'all-for-one and one-for-all' ....... so he would more than likely help Turkey against The RoC aggression? :roll:
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Re: Turkish Referendum

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:16 am

More details about the 2005 ruling by the Council of State in which it annulled a Supreme Election Council resolution are to be found here, including a translation of the key part of the text displayed above:

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/engl ... ve_it.html

The journalist who has found this ruling says that he is searching for other examples and claims that he can come up with more.

This is of great significance, not only because the Council of State declined jurisdiction overthe CHP's application for annulment of the Supreme Election Council's blatantly illegal resolution to permit unstamped voting slips in the referendum which everyone knows is how it was rigged, but also because Justice Minister Bozdağ, who is a law graduate, made the public pronouncement after the CHP filed its application - illegal as this was because the justice minister is not supposed to comment on pending lawsuits - that the Council of State has no jurisdiction over Supreme Election Council resolutions. The 2005 Council of State ruling proves this to be a lie. Of course, the thieves around Erdoğan don't give two hoots about the law and are used to riding roughshod over it. The point about this evidence is that it comes as a further wake up call for the people to see them as the thieves and liars they are and to do something to boot them out, and for the judiciary to stop kowtowing to them and live up to its task and annul this illegal act that if it stands will prevent a reliable election from ever being held in the country again. And if these things don't happen, it will add weight to the case at the European Court of Human Rights.
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