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Re: what a u turn

Postby tsukoui » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:01 am

The working class are now self-employed and having to stand up for themselves, the public sector middle class are largely dependent on IT jobs that will soon be replaced by robots and crave stability, both are workers, as for the private sector middle class, they are watching all this with horror, yes project fear has run its course 8)
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:02 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
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Why don't you just forget the referendum and the result ..... it is history.



I fully agree. The important thing is to do everything possible to save the country from impending disaster.


Exactly, and remaining in the 'woe is me I am undone' mode won't get the country anywhere!

I suggested that Corbyn could well have the solution that would encourage other counties that are being railroaded into a Federal States of Europe (4th Reich) to join the UK in making their country a better place for all rather than just the few? Until you understand what he is talking about you will not see the obvious advantages he is proposing ........ and for sure you will not read about it in the Press. The FEW (The super elite) have far too much to lose! :roll:
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:24 pm

tsukoui wrote:The working class are now self-employed and having to stand up for themselves, the public sector middle class are largely dependent on IT jobs that will soon be replaced by robots and crave stability, both are workers, as for the private sector middle class, they are watching all this with horror, yes project fear has run its course 8)


So :!: ..... licence and Tax the Robots and further tax them per Robot/hr ...... so that they become as or even more expensive to operate, than employing humans. Then the tax received can pay for all those that have no jobs to spend their time on leisure activities. Pay everyone a salary that they can top up if they wish or even by working for the community in education or the NHS. All you need is money ..... and Corbyn's already worked that one out! :roll: :wink:
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:08 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Why don't you just forget the referendum and the result ..... it is history.



I fully agree. The important thing is to do everything possible to save the country from impending disaster.


Exactly, and remaining in the 'woe is me I am undone' mode won't get the country anywhere!

I suggested that Corbyn could well have the solution that would encourage other counties that are being railroaded into a Federal States of Europe (4th Reich) to join the UK in making their country a better place for all rather than just the few? Until you understand what he is talking about you will not see the obvious advantages he is proposing ........ and for sure you will not read about it in the Press. The FEW (The super elite) have far too much to lose! :roll:


As I am sure you will agree as a diligent student and deconstructor of the 'MSM', given that Rupert Murdoch has dictated the result of every poll in the UK since 1979 and he has decreed that the Tories should win, the result is a foregone conclusion. He is unfortunately able to get a large enough group of the electorate to blindly follow his dictates and so act as king maker in the UK. Still, 100-1 outsiders do win races once in a blue moon.
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:32 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Why don't you just forget the referendum and the result ..... it is history.



I fully agree. The important thing is to do everything possible to save the country from impending disaster.


Exactly, and remaining in the 'woe is me I am undone' mode won't get the country anywhere!

I suggested that Corbyn could well have the solution that would encourage other counties that are being railroaded into a Federal States of Europe (4th Reich) to join the UK in making their country a better place for all rather than just the few? Until you understand what he is talking about you will not see the obvious advantages he is proposing ........ and for sure you will not read about it in the Press. The FEW (The super elite) have far too much to lose! :roll:


As I am sure you will agree as a diligent student and deconstructor of the 'MSM', given that Rupert Murdoch has dictated the result of every poll in the UK since 1979 and he has decreed that the Tories should win, the result is a foregone conclusion. He is unfortunately able to get a large enough group of the electorate to blindly follow his dictates and so act as king maker in the UK. Still, 100-1 outsiders do win races once in a blue moon.


That is a far more constructive and positive attitude although, I think you are awarding Murdoch with more influence than he actually has. :D

Before you can fix the problem you need to know what the problem is. Murdoch is among the elite .... as well as THE Bankers, What Corbyn proposes is a threat to them as it greatly dilutes their power. Instead of banks lending the Government money that they can create from nothing, at interest..... the Central Bank creates it from nothing and gives it to the Government Investment Bank. What he is doing is CUTTING OUT THE MIDDLE MAN ..... there is neither interest or capital to repay and NO it does not cause inflation.

I apologise for resorting to the MSM but I thought this would have more credence for you than something a bit more detailed from a non-conventional source: :wink:


https://www.theguardian.com/business/ec ... dependence
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:02 pm

I think you should give me a bit more credit given that I have come up with a credible hypothesis as to why Murdoch guided the silly sheep at his beck and call to vote for taking the suidical step of leaving the EU, something you have been unable to explain.
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I think you should give me a bit more credit given that I have come up with a credible hypothesis as to why Murdoch guided the silly sheep at his beck and call to vote for taking the suidical step of leaving the EU, something you have been unable to explain.


I do give you credit but I don't think he is that influential that he can determine the outcome. He can certainly influence it, that I do not doubt but even those that read Murdoch's newspapers are not ALL silly sheep.

I can't explain why I supported what you consider to be a suicidal step for leaving the EU. I just don't like the idea of having career diplomats and bureaucrats in Europe deciding what we can and cannot do. If we comply with International Law and norms, who are they to interfere. If we want to control who comes to the UK to work, that should be our choice not a dictat from European Union federalists that there should be no restrictions. If we put conditions on the use of the NHS by 'foreigners' again it should be our decision and we should expect the same restrictions on UK citizens using other European countries NHS facilities.

I cannot give you a list of all the benefits because I don't know what they will be but the same applies to remaining! I could see the problems but not that much in the way of benefits if we remained. It was my opinion and was not affected by either remain or Brexit campaigns. I couldn't vote ..... so it was purely an interest that would have no influence anyway. :|
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:52 pm

It was easy for Putin to get Donald Trump in the White House – his real challenge will be shunting Corbyn into No 10

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/put ... 72381.html

So true.
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Re: what a u turn

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:46 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It was easy for Putin to get Donald Trump in the White House – his real challenge will be shunting Corbyn into No 10

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/put ... 72381.html

So true.


Of course! Putin is given the list of Independent readers and rings every one up personally and tells them how to vote. :roll:

Talking of silly sheep .......... is that the same as being a 'silly-billy' ? ........ this is what the Corbyn proposal for PQE could do for the UK economy. ....... but it was Conservative PM and Chancellor that authorised this ..... so he is not as daft as the Press would have you believe.

http://positivemoney.org/2014/06/waste-375-billion-failure-quantitative-easing-video/

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Re: what a u turn

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:13 pm

2325 posts and every single one of them supporting the Putin line 100% at the time. What with Putin having lined up with the racist, reactionary Little Englanders to engineer Brexit, it came as an astonishment to see the 180 degree turn that now involves lining up with UK progressives. It's not about ideology, though, is it? It's about spreading chaos in Western countries. Nice to see his little poodle still trotting along at his feet, wagging its tail. Pays well, does it?
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