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[patrick jane]

Good evening.

Yesterday I went to Famagusta in the northern part of Cyprus and when touring around the city I saw a huge sieged town. No one is allowed inside it, but I can see the deserted homes and buildings.. they represent nothing but sadness, a town that once used to be one of Cyprus's best tourism attractions. I read everything there's to read about Verosha and how almost 40K people fled in an instant, but the thing I don't understand yet is why make it a forbidden entry zone not to mention the tremendous amount of Turkish soldiers around every inch of the town ? Verosha was taken in August 1974 and since then no one had made entry except for the high ranked officials of the Turkish army.

It is also my wish to exchange talks with people who are actually from verosha and were among the ones who fled in 1974. I was also told that many people left all their belongings on the hope to some day go back.

please share anything you know about Verosha.

Thank you !

[Sotos]

The proper name is Varosha. The Turks keep it empty as a bargaining chip. They want to give back just that and keep everything else they took from us. If you thought that the case of Varosha is the worst you are mistaken. At least nobody lives in Varosha. In all our other cities and villages in the north, the Turkish army not only ethnically cleansed all the native population but they also brought Turkish Settlers from Turkey and gave them our homes and properties to live in.

[DrCyprus]

Good evening.

Yesterday I went to Famagusta in the northern part of Cyprus and when touring around the city I saw a huge sieged town. No one is allowed inside it, but I can see the deserted homes and buildings.. they represent nothing but sadness, a town that once used to be one of Cyprus's best tourism attractions. I read everything there's to read about Verosha and how almost 40K people fled in an instant, but the thing I don't understand yet is why make it a forbidden entry zone not to mention the tremendous amount of Turkish soldiers around every inch of the town ? Verosha was taken in August 1974 and since then no one had made entry except for the high ranked officials of the Turkish army.

It is also my wish to exchange talks with people who are actually from verosha and were among the ones who fled in 1974. I was also told that many people left all their belongings on the hope to some day go back.

please share anything you know about Verosha.

Thank you !

We are still waiting to go back to our homes and land which was stolen from us by an alien, foreign to us, foe on a bogus pretext.

[supporttheunderdog]

The proper name is Varosha. The Turks keep it empty as a bargaining chip. They want to give back just that and keep everything else they took from us. If you thought that the case of Varosha is the worst you are mistaken. At least nobody lives in Varosha. In all our other cities and villages in the north, the Turkish army not only ethnically cleansed all the native population but they also brought Turkish Settlers from Turkey and gave them our homes and properties to live in.

Quite correct. A lot of Cypriots (both Greek speaking and Turkish speaking ) were displaced: The figures for internally displaced Cypriots varies: UNFICYP estimates 165,000 Greek Speaking Cypriots and 45,000 Turkish Speaking Cypriots. The UNHCR registers slightly higher figures of 200,000 and 65,000 respectively, which is partly based on official Cypriot statistics which register children of displaced families as refugees.That is something like 40% of the Greek Speaking Cypriots and 50 % of Turkish speaking Cypriots.

Control of abandoned Turkish speaking Cypriot property in the South has been taken over by the Government and is mostly held in trust: it has been rented out, in theory only to GSC refugees but some, in prime areas, has been sublet illegally. Turkish Speaking Cypriots have a legal right to reclaim their property, on terms. There has however been jiggery-pokery with the law to get some released for development, e.g. the Dromoloxia Land Scandal.

The same cannot be said for the property of displaced Greek Speaking Cypriots. Much of that has been illegally sold and redeveloped as e.g,. Hotels and Casino or for housing, occupied by Carpet-baggers like the Orams, looking for a cheap place in the sun, built on stolen land.

In my view the recognition of the Immovable Property Commission by the EHCR was a travesty - it gave the thieves the right to decide who got the proceeds of the theft. The Pseudo law under which it was established should never have been recognised. Shame on the ECHR.

[MR-from-NG]

Good evening.

Yesterday I went to Famagusta in the northern part of Cyprus and when touring around the city I saw a huge sieged town. No one is allowed inside it, but I can see the deserted homes and buildings.. they represent nothing but sadness, a town that once used to be one of Cyprus's best tourism attractions. I read everything there's to read about Verosha and how almost 40K people fled in an instant, but the thing I don't understand yet is why make it a forbidden entry zone not to mention the tremendous amount of Turkish soldiers around every inch of the town ? Verosha was taken in August 1974 and since then no one had made entry except for the high ranked officials of the Turkish army.

It is also my wish to exchange talks with people who are actually from verosha and were among the ones who fled in 1974. I was also told that many people left all their belongings on the hope to some day go back.

please share anything you know about Verosha.

Thank you !

There's always 2 sides to a story and then there's the truth. 23rd of December 1963 was the GC's attempt at wiping out the TC's and gifting our beautiful island to Greece (ENOSIS). It all kicked off from there. By all means do your research but I wouldn't take too much notice of what CF members have to say. These guys would wipe the TC's out at the drop of a hat, you're not going to anything near the truth from them or TC's for that matter. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Control of abandoned Turkish speaking Cypriot property in the South ...

Oh really, ImperialistDog? There's Cypriot property that speaks Turkish, now?

[patrick jane]

The proper name is Varosha. The Turks keep it empty as a bargaining chip. They want to give back just that and keep everything else they took from us. If you thought that the case of Varosha is the worst you are mistaken. At least nobody lives in Varosha. In all our other cities and villages in the north, the Turkish army not only ethnically cleansed all the native population but they also brought Turkish Settlers from Turkey and gave them our homes and properties to live in.

From what I know, when discussing the matter of Turkish invasion to Cyprus, it feels like Turkish-speaking original Cypriots are not included as if we are only talking about Greek Cyprus. Before the Turks took the northern part there were both Greek and Turkish Cypriots (according to Wikipedia) and the reason behind this in the first place as I read is because the Greek government wanted to take control all over Cyprus and consider it a Greek Island or something like that, disregarding the native Turkish Cypriots. Now I am sorry if my info are misplaced , but that's what I read in every news, article and historical information related to this topic.

Thanks buddy !

[patrick jane]

Good evening.

Yesterday I went to Famagusta in the northern part of Cyprus and when touring around the city I saw a huge sieged town. No one is allowed inside it, but I can see the deserted homes and buildings.. they represent nothing but sadness, a town that once used to be one of Cyprus's best tourism attractions. I read everything there's to read about Verosha and how almost 40K people fled in an instant, but the thing I don't understand yet is why make it a forbidden entry zone not to mention the tremendous amount of Turkish soldiers around every inch of the town ? Verosha was taken in August 1974 and since then no one had made entry except for the high ranked officials of the Turkish army.

It is also my wish to exchange talks with people who are actually from verosha and were among the ones who fled in 1974. I was also told that many people left all their belongings on the hope to some day go back.

please share anything you know about Verosha.

Thank you !

We are still waiting to go back to our homes and land which was stolen from us by an alien, foreign to us, foe on a bogus pretext.

Are you from Varosha ? My hope is that everyone gets back what they lost and cyprus shall once again be undivided

[patrick jane]

Good evening.

Yesterday I went to Famagusta in the northern part of Cyprus and when touring around the city I saw a huge sieged town. No one is allowed inside it, but I can see the deserted homes and buildings.. they represent nothing but sadness, a town that once used to be one of Cyprus's best tourism attractions. I read everything there's to read about Verosha and how almost 40K people fled in an instant, but the thing I don't understand yet is why make it a forbidden entry zone not to mention the tremendous amount of Turkish soldiers around every inch of the town ? Verosha was taken in August 1974 and since then no one had made entry except for the high ranked officials of the Turkish army.

It is also my wish to exchange talks with people who are actually from verosha and were among the ones who fled in 1974. I was also told that many people left all their belongings on the hope to some day go back.

please share anything you know about Verosha.

Thank you !

There's always 2 sides to a story and then there's the truth. 23rd of December 1963 was the GC's attempt at wiping out the TC's and gifting our beautiful island to Greece (ENOSIS). It all kicked off from there. By all means do your research but I wouldn't take too much notice of what CF members have to say. These guys would wipe the TC's out at the drop of a hat, you're not going to anything near the truth from them or TC's for that matter. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

I will definitely not take someone's side of the story on the count of others. I am neutral. everything I read nearly supports what you said, however, that doesn't mean I agree with Turkey's disgraceful military acts !

Thanks alot

[Get Real!]

...disregarding the native Turkish Cypriots.

Let's just clear something very important up... there's no such thing as "native Turks" in Cyprus!

Turks are uninvited invaders who first made their way here by invading and murdering in 1571, so the word "native" is not applicable for it can only apply to the people who made first contact with a land.

The native Cypriots (who cannot possibly be Greek or Turkish) have been here since at least 10,000 BC!


PS: Advice... never open a can of worms unless you're wearing an apron.

If you’re here just to satisfy your curiosity just stick to the Wiki thanks.

There’s no need to open wounds here for your satisfaction.