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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Londonrake » Wed May 17, 2017 8:34 am

Robin Hood wrote:Corbyn himself is the problem, not his ideas, they are quite sound when you take the trouble to look at them. He is NO leader ...... that is his problem ..... he has no charisma.


I agree with you on his obvious lack of leadership qualities, who wouldn't? He's no Churchill, that's for sure. But I have to take exception to the other points.

Whilst Corbyn (and indeed McDonnell) would like to wipe the slate clean and start over, politics isn't like that. They've both accumulated decades of loony, back-bench, hard left politicial activities. Corbyn, the proud rebel, who has voted against Labour a record 428 times, now calls for "Party unity" for instance :lol: Proof, if ever, that in certain areas you could put a donkey up for election and succeed, if it wore the right coloured ribbon. None of that past is going away though, "sound" ideas or not. Which brings me to another point....................................... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Really though, I doubt even as little as 3 years ago Corbyn, in his wildest dreams, would have foreseen a situation where his brand of politics would capture the Labour Party and both he and McDonnell aspire to the two greatest offices of State. You can thank Ed M for that one.

Anyway, back on track with the OP - well, sort of. Although......... perhaps not really. :?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... rt-ruling/

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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 17, 2017 10:47 am

The can of worms waiting to be opened?

Is the Brexit Vote Legitimate If Russia Influenced the Outcome?

http://www.newsweek.com/brexit-russia-p ... ate-527260
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 17, 2017 10:51 am

American intelligence officials know Russia used cyberattacks and misinformation to interfere with recent elections in Western Europe, including the German elections last month that resulted in victories for right-wing populists, and the United Kingdom’s vote in June on Brexit, a referendum that called for Britain to leave the European Union.


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vl ... ope-516895
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 17, 2017 10:54 am

Along with Russia’s official news outlets, secretive troll factories are pumping out huge quantities of propaganda. Low-paid workers create thousands of pro-Kremlin blogs, social media posts, and comments on local and Western news outlets. Diplomats believe Brexit is one of the latest topics of the trolls’ propaganda machine.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... rexit-vote

I wonder why they do it if it is low paid? Are they desperate?
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Londonrake » Wed May 17, 2017 11:08 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The can of worms waiting to be opened?

Is the Brexit Vote Legitimate If Russia Influenced the Outcome?

http://www.newsweek.com/brexit-russia-p ... ate-527260


Do you think RH is a Major in the "Troll army"? :lol: Funny, I once got accused of working for Mossad in the same area. :shock: :lol:

Really though, clutching at any straw, or what? :wink:

The avalanche of Project Fear disinformation makes anything Russia just might (absolutely no proof offered of course. It's a conspiracy theory) have been responsible for, pale into insignificance. Cameron had absolutely every big gun on his side, bar elements of what you deem the right wing press of course. Although I think the Beeb more than made up for that, in most respects.

Couldn't it just be the case that, like myself, with 40+ of years of ever advancing EU dominance and disenfranchisement to influence their views people might, just might, simply have had enough of it? Taking that one-off opportunity to say so. :? Does it all have to be some sort of sinister plot? :roll:
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Londonrake » Wed May 17, 2017 11:18 am

Hey, Tim.

This looks right up your street. :wink: :D

http://www.europeanmovement.co.uk/?utm_ ... e=euromove

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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 17, 2017 12:14 pm

Londonrake wrote:Hey, Tim.

This looks right up your street. :wink: :D

http://www.europeanmovement.co.uk/?utm_ ... e=euromove

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Thanks. I will look into that.
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 17, 2017 12:28 pm

Major - no. Private - maybe. 2350 posts and not one of them contrary the Kremlin line at the time, and most of them pushing that line. Sudden conversion to the cause of Labour just when Putin is reputed to have thrown in his support behind Labour - admittedly the only sources for that are the rags that peddle any particular lies, distortions and half-truths it suits their right-wing billionaire tax-cheat proprietors to have the masses believe. Draw your own conclusion.
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Robin Hood » Wed May 17, 2017 2:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
American intelligence officials know Russia used cyberattacks and misinformation to interfere with recent elections in Western Europe, including the German elections last month that resulted in victories for right-wing populists, and the United Kingdom’s vote in June on Brexit, a referendum that called for Britain to leave the European Union.


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vl ... ope-516895


Stories like that are written for people like you! They have the evidence to support the clams of course, but they can't release it publicly because it would endanger National Security ? You have to trust them at their word! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who writes this rubbish for gullible fools? :roll:
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Re: The UK's EU referendum was rigged !!!!

Postby Robin Hood » Wed May 17, 2017 2:41 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The can of worms waiting to be opened?

Is the Brexit Vote Legitimate If Russia Influenced the Outcome?

http://www.newsweek.com/brexit-russia-p ... ate-527260


More fairy tails for gullible fools! :roll: You post this but do you honestly believe it? :?:
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