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The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby MrH » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:40 am

Well, what can I really say about a Cyprus Solution besides let's just say it's now been solved! The following is now crystal clear at an international level:

(1) The idea of a so called Cyprus Solution under the current Federal model is now out of the question.

(2) The UN will soon be compelled to leave the island in the next coming years.

(3) Checkpoints will increase and the PRACTICAL movement of people and establish, if not already, and acceptance of Two States will be more transparent- which was R.R.Denktas' intentions when he agreed to the opening of the first checkpoint in 2003!

(4) With Turkey now knowing that it's EU aspirations can only ever materialise as a privileged partnership, at best, a compromise of Cyprus is clearly out of the questions, hence why Çavusoglu suddenly changed tactics.

(5) The Greek Cypriots needs to realise that they have lost Northern Cyprus. It's a lose-lose scenario for them as Turkey will only ever budge if it should become a full member of the EU, which is now impossible, ad if it did Then the island would be flooded with (eventually) with millions of Turks anyway!

(6) The Greek Cypriots accepting a clear two state resolution today with the option of gaining some more land from the North is slowly fading if they don't move quickly....Why? Because Turkey has already started assimilating, integrating the Turkish Cypriot land and people into the Republic of Turkey like it did with the Turkish Kurds.

(7) Sooner or later Akinci, or should I really say PM Huseyin Ozgurgun, will become an MP in the Turkish Parliament.

(8) The EU and UN have a collosal and bold task ahead of them as I know that they will choose option Two, which will be to offer the TRNC some kind of Recognition as a state similarly to that of Kosovo without Greek or Greek Cypriot approval! Although, talks have already started to surface regarding a Yugoslavian style split!

(9) With the positioning of Britain, Turkey and Greece as Guarantor countries of the original ROC still yet to be changed, the Gas-HydroCarbons affair will Cement the above comments, or should I say views by a Turkish MP!

(10) And finally, bulldoze the former unusable Varosha down as its more of a hindrance than a benefit.....as the Turkish Cypriots now have the heavily sponsored "Yeni Iskele" just slightly north of Famagusta!
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby B25 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:19 am

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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:31 pm

MrH wrote:(1) The idea of a so called Cyprus Solution under the current Federal model is now out of the question.

It was never "in the question" because you can never do "deals" with an illegal invader/occupier. We were correct after all!

MrH wrote:(2) The UN will soon be compelled to leave the island in the next coming years.

Incorrect! The UN is here at the invitation of the legitimate RoC, which also happens to be PAYING for the UN’s presence. This is basic CyProb 101 knowledge!

How little you know about Cyprus... yet want to write about it! :roll:

MrH wrote:(3) Checkpoints will increase and the PRACTICAL movement of people and establish, if not already, and acceptance of Two States will be more transparent- which was R.R.Denktas' intentions when he agreed to the opening of the first checkpoint in 2003!

Acceptance by whom? Certainly not by the most important entity pertaining to the CypProb... and you know which that is.

MrH wrote:(4) With Turkey now knowing that it's EU aspirations can only ever materialise as a privileged partnership, at best, a compromise of Cyprus is clearly out of the questions, hence why Çavusoglu suddenly changed tactics.

There never was... it was all in your head. The only solution is military.

MrH wrote:(5) The Greek Cypriots needs to realise that they have lost Northern Cyprus. It's a lose-lose scenario for them as Turkey will only ever budge if it should become a full member of the EU, which is now impossible, ad if it did Then the island would be flooded with (eventually) with millions of Turks anyway!

The native Cypriots (we are not Greeks) haven't lost anything because the occupied Cyprus remains 100% Cypriot territory pending liberation. Nothing changed.

MrH wrote:(6) The Greek Cypriots accepting a clear two state resolution today with the option of gaining some more land from the North is slowly fading if they don't move quickly....Why? Because Turkey has already started assimilating, integrating the Turkish Cypriot land and people into the Republic of Turkey like it did with the Turkish Kurds.

???

MrH wrote:(7) Sooner or later Akinci, or should I really say PM Huseyin Ozgurgun, will become an MP in the Turkish Parliament.

Next time you should listen to the native Cypriots who have been telling you from the onset that you were nothing but a disgusting Turkish puppet state. :)
Now you come here pretending that it's only just happened? :roll:

Not that we care about this in the slightest... Turks you are and in Turkey you belong.

MrH wrote:(8) The EU and UN have a collosal and bold task ahead of them as I know that they will choose option Two, which will be to offer the TRNC some kind of Recognition as a state similarly to that of Kosovo without Greek or Greek Cypriot approval! Although, talks have already started to surface regarding a Yugoslavian style split!

Don't post your dreams and delusions... nobody is interested. The RoC has the UNGA/UNSC in its pocket and you've got jackshit. Simple FACT.

MrH wrote:(9) With the positioning of Britain, Turkey and Greece as Guarantor countries of the original ROC still yet to be changed, the Gas-HydroCarbons affair will Cement the above comments, or should I say views by a Turkish MP!

???

MrH wrote:(10) And finally, bulldoze the former unusable Varosha down as its more of a hindrance than a benefit.....as the Turkish Cypriots now have the heavily sponsored "Yeni Iskele" just slightly north of Famagusta!

???
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby MrH » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:54 pm

Don't you love the impractical and fantasy world of 1974 Cyprus through the eyes of the Greek Cypriots. Continue with that outlook and the only thing you will all be doing is waking up to not only the Turkish Cypriot flag on the mountain, but also the Turkish flag representing the entire island by 2050 if the TRNC is annexed and there's a million Turks flowing through it. But, unlike the Greek Cypriots I am sure the EU isn't as stupid and will soon recognise the TRNC as the best alternative!
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:08 pm

MrH wrote:...if the TRNC is annexed and there's a million Turks flowing through it.

Annexation is also NOT possible. I explained this to you in the past so I won't repeat myself.

MrH wrote: But, unlike the Greek Cypriots I am sure the EU isn't as stupid and will soon recognise the TRNC as the best alternative!

Ottoman remnants are LOCKED IN LIMBO and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

So far you've been very lucky though because it's a very small price to pay considering all the atrocities you committed against the native Cypriots for 400+ years.

Light a candle in your God's name...
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby B25 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:56 pm

MrH wrote: if the TRNC is annexed and there's a million Turks flowing through it. But, unlike the Greek Cypriots I am sure the EU isn't as stupid and will soon recognise the TRNC as the best alternative!


If, If, If, so far you have been saying Will, Will, Will.

And what will a million gypsy settlers do for works and live re malaka. Bring as many as you like, the crossings will be closed to them all the EU can fund 'FrontEx' or whatever its called. As if the EU want this trash running around the EU. They already have 100s of 1000's of refugees to deal with.

Oh and btw, how is Shenghen going, I guess your people already have free EU travel :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby MrH » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:01 pm

Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!
Unread postby B25 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:56 pm
MrH wrote:
if the TRNC is annexed and there's a million Turks flowing through it. But, unlike the Greek Cypriots I am sure the EU isn't as stupid and will soon recognise the TRNC as the best alternative!


If, If, If, so far you have been saying Will, Will, Will.

And what will a million gypsy settlers do for works and live re malaka. Bring as many as you like, the crossings will be closed to them all the EU can fund 'FrontEx' or whatever its called. As if the EU want this trash running around the EU. They already have 100s of 1000's of refugees to deal with.

Oh and btw, how is Shenghen going, I guess your people already have free EU travel :lol: :lol: :lol:


Actually, the Turks of Turkey interested in Northern Cyprus are the Rich and Hard working and not like the spoilt, stupid and bankrupt Greek Cypriots whom have destroyed the south. Clearly you haven't visited the North of the island lately! And if, if, if it is the Turkish Gypsies whom move into Cyprus then you better hide your sons and daughters as they are both Ruthless and very thick-skinned! You seriously wouldn't want the KaraDenizler to start emigrating here Lol
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby MrH » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:14 pm

Get Real
Don't post your dreams and delusions... nobody is interested. The RoC has the UNGA/UNSC in its pocket and you've got jackshit. Simple FACT.


That's the LAUGH of the century! So Cyprus rules the UN as they are Greek, and Christian and Turkish is shit! Man you guys are seriously living in cookoo land. Then explain this, how come I live in a beautiful house in Famagusta built by pre1974 Greek Cypriots and you haven't done jack shit about it. In fact, another house I also claimed from the peace operation in 1974 was recently rented to a Greek Cypriot family whom wanted to visit Karpaz for a few days! Lol

The truth is that you guys seriously fell into the hands of the British and messed up real bad and now have no way of reversing it. You cry invasion, when really it was your invitation that cried out for Turkey back in 1974 when the EOKA was slaughtering your sons acting against them. The Greek Cypriots always screw up, and this time was the last.

In fact, I would actually close this forum as Cyprus is now a done deal!
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:16 pm

MrH wrote:Get Real
Don't post your dreams and delusions... nobody is interested. The RoC has the UNGA/UNSC in its pocket and you've got jackshit. Simple FACT.


That's the LAUGH of the century! So Cyprus rules the UN as they are Greek, and Christian and Turkish is shit! Man you guys are seriously living in cookoo land. Then explain this, how come I live in a beautiful house in Famagusta built by pre1974 Greek Cypriots and you haven't done jack shit about it. In fact, another house I also claimed from the peace operation in 1974 was recently rented to a Greek Cypriot family whom wanted to visit Karpaz for a few days! Lol

The truth is that you guys seriously fell into the hands of the British and messed up real bad and now have no way of reversing it. You cry invasion, when really it was your invitation that cried out for Turkey back in 1974 when the EOKA was slaughtering your sons acting against them. The Greek Cypriots always screw up, and this time was the last.

In fact, I would actually close this forum as Cyprus is now a done deal!

Read this...

"It is impossible to appreciate that some energy companies are acting with, and becoming part of some irresponsible measures taken by Greek Cypriots. I want to remind them that they could lose a friend like Turkey," Erdogan said.


If Turkey has the political clout of a goldfish imagine yours... :lol:
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Re: The Cyprus-Montana is over!

Postby Jerry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:56 pm

MrH wrote:Well, what can I really say about a Cyprus Solution besides let's just say it's now been solved! The following is now crystal clear at an international level:

(1) The idea of a so called Cyprus Solution under the current Federal model is now out of the question.

(2) The UN will soon be compelled to leave the island in the next coming years.

(3) Checkpoints will increase and the PRACTICAL movement of people and establish, if not already, and acceptance of Two States will be more transparent- which was R.R.Denktas' intentions when he agreed to the opening of the first checkpoint in 2003!

(4) With Turkey now knowing that it's EU aspirations can only ever materialise as a privileged partnership, at best, a compromise of Cyprus is clearly out of the questions, hence why Çavusoglu suddenly changed tactics.

(5) The Greek Cypriots needs to realise that they have lost Northern Cyprus. It's a lose-lose scenario for them as Turkey will only ever budge if it should become a full member of the EU, which is now impossible, ad if it did Then the island would be flooded with (eventually) with millions of Turks anyway!

(6) The Greek Cypriots accepting a clear two state resolution today with the option of gaining some more land from the North is slowly fading if they don't move quickly....Why? Because Turkey has already started assimilating, integrating the Turkish Cypriot land and people into the Republic of Turkey like it did with the Turkish Kurds.

(7) Sooner or later Akinci, or should I really say PM Huseyin Ozgurgun, will become an MP in the Turkish Parliament.

(8) The EU and UN have a collosal and bold task ahead of them as I know that they will choose option Two, which will be to offer the TRNC some kind of Recognition as a state similarly to that of Kosovo without Greek or Greek Cypriot approval! Although, talks have already started to surface regarding a Yugoslavian style split!

(9) With the positioning of Britain, Turkey and Greece as Guarantor countries of the original ROC still yet to be changed, the Gas-HydroCarbons affair will Cement the above comments, or should I say views by a Turkish MP!

(10) And finally, bulldoze the former unusable Varosha down as its more of a hindrance than a benefit.....as the Turkish Cypriots now have the heavily sponsored "Yeni Iskele" just slightly north of Famagusta!


NO KIND OF RECOGNITION EVER WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT OF THE ROC.

Read this H, print it out and shove it where the sun don't shine so that you never forget it.





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Adopted by the Security Council on 18 November 1983

The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create in independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need of a solution to the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continued support for the United Nations Peace- keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-Generals statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration refered to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to peruse his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to co-operate with the Secretary- General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all states not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all states and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

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