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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:21 am

Get Real! wrote:
B25 wrote:You complain that the Turks didn't integrate with the host, yet you MFs didn't integrate with the host when you invaded the first time.

:lol:

Ottoman remnants... been here 400+ years yet still haven't assimilated with the natives and they want to complain about integration!

:lol: :lol: :lol:



The genetics suggest that for the majority of the true Turkish Speaking Cypriot, ie pre 74, not the post 74 "settlers", they can trace the majority of their ancestry on Cyprus likely back to the earliest continuous settlers, just like you, but who likley adopted the Turkish language and Modlem faith for tax reasons...
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:36 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
B25 wrote:You complain that the Turks didn't integrate with the host, yet you MFs didn't integrate with the host when you invaded the first time.

:lol:

Ottoman remnants... been here 400+ years yet still haven't assimilated with the natives and they want to complain about integration!

:lol: :lol: :lol:



The genetics suggest that for the majority of the true Turkish Speaking Cypriot, ie pre 74, not the post 74 "settlers", they can trace the majority of their ancestry on Cyprus likely back to the earliest continuous settlers, just like you, but who likley adopted the Turkish language and Modlem faith for tax reasons...

How can that be STUD, when there was no Turkey or Turkish in the vicinity not too long ago? :)

Modern Turks (former Seljuks) originate from Turkistan (east of the Caspian Sea)

What was above Cyprus (the current Turkish southern shores) was ancient Armenia (called Cilicia) not Turkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Armenia

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... nia-en.svg

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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby B25 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:46 am

No point trying to justify our heritage to STUD, this colonial Brit will say anything to support the Turks, just look at all his comments. He thinks he's clever giving us history lessons about what, where and how the fucking Turks came to be. So here's my message to him. F U STUD! Assirktir.
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:02 am

Here is the Study

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0179474

Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots share primarily a common pre-Ottoman paternal ancestry.


So up yours...
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
B25 wrote:You complain that the Turks didn't integrate with the host, yet you MFs didn't integrate with the host when you invaded the first time.

:lol:

Ottoman remnants... been here 400+ years yet still haven't assimilated with the natives and they want to complain about integration!

:lol: :lol: :lol:



The genetics suggest that for the majority of the true Turkish Speaking Cypriot, ie pre 74, not the post 74 "settlers", they can trace the majority of their ancestry on Cyprus likely back to the earliest continuous settlers, just like you, but who likley adopted the Turkish language and Modlem faith for tax reasons...

How can that be STUD, when there was no Turkey or Turkish in the vicinity not too long ago? :)

Modern Turks (former Seljuks) originate from Turkistan (east of the Caspian Sea)

What was above Cyprus (the current Turkish southern shores) was ancient Armenia (called Cilicia) not Turkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Armenia

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... nia-en.svg

cilicia.png



Your post is incomprehensible -

see
Y-chromosomal analysis of Greek Cypriots reveals a primarily common pre-Ottoman paternal ancestry with Turkish Cypriots

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0179474

This study looked at two Scenario -
Scenario 1: TCy and GCy derive primarily from the same local paternal gene pool, diverging only recently (Ottoman era) as a result of Islamization and gradual formation of a separate TCy community. Scenario 2: TCy derive primarily from the mainland Turkish paternal gene pool, migrating to Cyprus during the Ottoman era of the island.


That does not exclude that there were post Ottoman Invasion Turkish speaking Moslem settlers, the study agrees they were, but we are however likely looking at the Linobambaki as being the major component.
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:12 pm

STUD, looking at who was present and ruled the territory we call “Turkey” in the past:

The Byzantine Empire: 330 – 1453 AD

Seljuk Sultanate of Rum: 1077–1308 AD

The Ottoman Empire: 1299 – 1923 AD

Modern Turkey: 1923 – 2017 AD


It’s obvious that there could not have been any “Turkish Cypriot” ancestry that could date as far back as that of a native Cypriot (15,000BC ?).

If that’s what you were trying to say… if not then I don’t know what the hell you’re trying to say! :)
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby Sotos » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:42 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:but who likley adopted the Turkish language and Modlem faith for tax reasons...


For tax reasons you only needed to become Muslim. Turkish language offered no tax benefits. And how would Greek speakers "adopt" the Turkish language? In those times there were few if any schools and nearly all people were uneducated peasants. Furthermore there are historical documents from Ottoman times about the Settlement of Cyprus by Turks. Read this post by Halil: cyprus17978-20.html#p307073 If your claim was true there would be no "Turkish Cypriots" but merely "Muslim Cypriots", just like for example the Muslim Bosnians who became Muslim during Ottoman rule but still speak essentially the same Slavic language like the Serbs and Croatians. What happened is that we did have a transfer of many 1000s of Anatolians in Cyprus during Ottoman rule and that a much smaller group of Greek speakers who became Muslims for tax reasons were gradually assimilated by the majority of Muslims who were Turkish speaking. As far as DNA studies go, if their conclusions go against historical facts and common sense, I bet they are politically motivated. It is not uncommon at all for studies to come to conclusions that serve those who sponsored them. This unfortunately happens ALL the time. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_bias
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby lonewolfcypriot » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:37 pm

Guys, hate to chuck a monkey spanner into your conversation but could you keep it relative to the video which the post is based which has nothing to do with Cyprus but protecting the women of your tribe.
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby kurupetos » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:38 am

lonewolfcypriot wrote:Guys, hate to chuck a monkey spanner into your conversation but could you keep it relative to the video which the post is based which has nothing to do with Cyprus but protecting the women of your tribe.

Are you a feminist? :mrgreen:
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Re: Protect the women of your tribe

Postby kurupetos » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:40 am

Get Real! wrote:STUD, looking at who was present and ruled the territory we call “Turkey” in the past:

The Byzantine Empire: 330 – 1453 AD

Seljuk Sultanate of Rum: 1077–1308 AD

The Ottoman Empire: 1299 – 1923 AD

Modern Turkey: 1923 – 2017 AD


It’s obvious that there could not have been any “Turkish Cypriot” ancestry that could date as far back as that of a native Cypriot (15,000BC ?).

If that’s what you were trying to say… if not then I don’t know what the hell you’re trying to say! :)

Turks are like Americans... they are a mixture of many races. :wink:
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