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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:31 pm

he is negotiating??????!!!!!!!!!
since when????????
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Postby Simon » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:41 pm

When I say this, I mean ongoing negotiations. For example, we recently had the Annan Plan, which was rejected. According to noises coming out of Ankara and Nicosia, serious talks about re-unification may start again at the middle of this year, provided they are set up by the UN. What I'm trying to say is, neither side has said they no longer want to talk, so at the moment, negotiation has not failed, because neither side has actually given up on it.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:27 pm

Negotiations are over because the Greek Cypriot authorities dont want them, after the last referandum its all been chucked in the bin.

All that will happen now is words, no serious action, just pleasing words as more and more nations lift their ambargo's on Northern Cyprus the more and more Turkish Cyprus will not see any importance in negotiations when the only negotiating going on is, accept Greek demands.

Brazil just lifted embargo's, flights are comming in.

If Gc had accepted re-unification a few months ago YOU would have won dont you get it, dont you realise what you threw away another chance like that wont arise.
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Postby Perastikos » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:16 pm

Negotiations are over because the Greek Cypriot authorities dont want them, after the last referandum its all been chucked in the bin.


Unfortunately this is the truth.

All that will happen now is words, no serious action, just pleasing words as more and more nations lift their ambargo's on Northern Cyprus the more and more Turkish Cyprus will not see any importance in negotiations when the only negotiating going on is, accept Greek demands.


Unfortunately again you are giving the most logic scenario.

I hope what this situation doesn’t lead as in 2 republics but in a confederation.

But not in short time. This situation could be still for ten or twenty years and basically we are hopeless if we continue this political path of doom.

The only thing we can earn is a federation and that only if the Turkey gives us something.

I prefer the second scenario but I’m also hopeless like the rest of as.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:47 am

Perastikos, if you were made President of Greek Cyprus, the issue could be resolved in a few weeks I'm sure of it, we need people like you to bridge the gap, you live up to the image of the wise, philosophical Greek, shamefully certain others resemble Sampson types :roll:

The issue needs comprimise, alot of Gc's dont seem to understand that there are many Tc's who feel just as bitter and angered by what they suffered from Eoka.

So what is needed is balance, if we had leaders like Perastikos who were willing to negotiate openly for the benefit of all of Cyprus we'd make great movements.

Peace could happen, diplomacy opened, trade re-started and soon maybe a Cyprus of free travel, where Turkish rights and laws are maintained in the North and Greek rights and laws in the South. Then maybe oneday a joint Cyprus who work together and accept each other as equals.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:43 am

Parasite would make a Cypriot great leader. His policy is basically limited accept ethnic cleansing ,just sign away every human rightand European Union Enitlement because Cyprus is small, weak and easy to ignore and there are some in the EU who are laughing at us. Clap Clap Clap.

Boo boo Lala do you think his just plain kooky views have a chance with Cypriots.
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Postby Perastikos » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:17 am

Be sure of that karagkiozi :lol:
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:17 am

Agios Amvrosios you have serious phychological problems, your kind of thinking is gonna get you knowhere.

You still believe that you are the Angels and Turks are the Devils, you dont realise that Turks feel that Eoka Greek Junta ethnically cleansed us and made us suffer alot. There are Turks who feel more angered and who have lost so much, when you pretend as if Turkish forces one day out of the Blue said

Ayhan "Hey Mehmed"

Mehmed"What Ayhan"

Ayhan "Let's go and invade Cyprus"

Mehmed "Why?"

Ayhan "Hey were stupid barbarian Turks its what we do, besides it will be fun we can annoy Agios"

Mehmed "Sure get the planes ready"

:roll:

This is the mindblowingly idiotic scenario you want us to believe.

Shamelessly you look over what happened 15 years prior to 1974 as if time ceases to exist before that date.

Remember the Greek Junta wasnt just attacking Turks, it first started on the Greek Cypriots and any Greek Cypriots who oppposed them.

This is all about you you you, again the same scenaio, you speak of Cyprus but its just a word you mean Greek cos all you say is My Island My Land, Turks have a right aswell. If we are all to be Cypriots we have to think as "Cypriots" that means Cypriot for Cyprus not Greek or Turk for our selfish selves.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:01 am

Perastikos wrote:
Unfortunately again you are giving the most logic scenario.

I hope what this situation doesn’t lead as in 2 republics but in a confederation.


Lala_Mustafa_Pasha wrote:Perastikos, if you were made President of Greek Cyprus, the issue could be resolved in a few weeks I'm sure of it


Lalas to me yesterday:

Lala_Mustafa_Pasha wrote:So well done, your a Turkish pawn, without realising it your their greatest weapon, give yourself a pat on the back you make them proud.


My reply:

Piratis wrote:If I was doing what you say (helping Turkish cause etc) you would be silent behind your computer and being very glad for helping your cause. Or you would congratulate me for my opinion.


Thanks for confirming what I said so quickly.
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Postby Simon » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:59 pm

It says it all.

Lala says:

Perastikos we need people like you to bridge the gap, you live up to the image of the wise, philosophical Greek, shamefully certain others resemble Sampson types


I wonder why Lala says this. Maybe because in another thread, Perastikos, regards all Greeks as evil and they have been destroyed by Christianity. It also seems like one minute he wants to surrender everything to TCs (including our human rights and dignity) and then the next minute he is talking of a war as the only way to resolve the issue(again I am referring to another thread).

Yes, I can see how Lala could think this man was wise. I think though the rest of us will stay 'evil' while we fight for justice. :o :D :lol:
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