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Would NAI have been better?

Postby Agios Amvrosios » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:15 am

How many Greek Cypriots would say that a NAI result in the Annan referendum would be better?

Isn't support of the Annan Plan down to 1% among GC.

Would it be better to start horse trading on a plan such as the Annan Plan without first achieving the following trump cards:
1) EU membership;
2) Further judgments in the ECHR; and
3)Orams Case.

Basically my whole town would be much worse off. I cannot still cannot see any benefit to accepting the plan. Turkey would have just walked in to the EU as is, barefoot, unshaven and holding a bloody axe and a bag full of skulls.

I couldn't find any Greek Cypriots who supported the Annan Plan back in 2994 and I have several close relatives who are former supporters of Ananstasiades party.It must be even more difficult to find Greek Cypriots who support the Annan plan now. The only person I know who voted for the plan voted for it by accident - (my ex girlfriend's grandfather who just flew in to Larnaca from Australia for the first time in 48 years to vote and thought for some reason his family would be allowed to go back to Lapithos. - he only realised he wouldn't be allowed to go back after a couple of days in Cyprus).
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Postby Sotos » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:28 am

I think the same people that voted "no" in 2004 they would vote "no" today. People that voted "yes" they would again vote "yes".
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:07 am

How many Greek Cypriots would say that a NAI result in the Annan referendum would be better?


None apart from those that voted NAI in the referendum.

If we had voted "yes" we would sign off our rights and our land once and for all.

However I even doubt the Annan plan would be implemented. During the first decade we would have gone broke, and running such a dysfunctional state would be impossible. In the end we would have been forced to accept partition and the end result would be 10 times worst than the status quo.

By rejecting that unfair plan and our EU accession we are now in better position to fight for a solution that will give to all Cypriots their human and democratic rights back.

I don't know when we will succeed, and it will definitely not be easy, but if giving up was in our nature Greek Cypriots would not exist on this island.
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Postby Natty » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:54 am

Hey, I just wanted to know a bit more about the 'annan plan', i read somewhere that if it had gone forward, some areas of the Island would be under TC control and some areas under GC control...If this is true, I don't understand how that could benefit anyone, isn't it just another 'divide and rule' policy? I wasn't too sure about the plan, and neither was my father, although I think he was more in favour, because at least we'd be doing something towards 'solving' the Cyprus Problem......

Why can't we have a unified Cyprus where both the TC's and GC's own the WHOLE of the Island, as well as other ethnic groups in Cyprus, for eg, the Maronites, Latins, Armenians etc... Or is it just me who thinks this??

Peace!! :)
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:07 am

I am glad Greeks voted OXI. Partitoin is now sealed.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:34 am

Natty the Annan plan was the final step in the permanent division of Cyprus , it was not a unification plan , and I challenge anyone to dispute this.
We would have one central government , a president that would change every 10 months !!
and two separate administrations .Even the ownership of roads was split into Turkish owned and Greek owned.
The plan would have eventually collapsed with dire consequences.
A lot has been said about the Annan plan , and I purposely avoided getting involved but I think we should examine this "unification " plan a little more so as not to allow people like Despo to post her theories unchallenged.

The plan was specifically drafted to divide the people of Cyprus on a permanent , and on a legal basis. Not to unite us.
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Postby Natty » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:37 am

Hey, I suppose that's your opinion...but I hope i really hope it hasn't sealed partiton....lets hope that a fair solution will be found :)
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Postby Natty » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:52 am

Thanks Mitiliades, from what I have read so far it seems that the 'Anan plan' wasn't really about reunification, but more about having seperate 'states' whithin Cyprus, something I, and i'm sure others certainly don't want!! I hope a better solution come's along, although I know it's going to be a while before talks re-start...
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Postby Alexis » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:38 pm

Hi all, with regards the Annan Plan, despite there being some fundamental issues with it (from the GC perspective at least), I would urge the GC community to at least look at that plan again and appreciate some of the more constructive parts of it. I think we would find that the line between a solution we would accept and the Annan Plan is probably a lot finer than most think. We must also realise that we have already agreed to a bizonal solution in which there will be a zone administered by the TC community. I have had many arguments on this forum regarding what biz-nal and bicommunal actually means but rest assured any solution now will involve two zones. The question is to what extent these zones 'appear' as separate countries as opposed to just separate territories within one country. I think the Annan Plan made it quite clear that the country would still have 'one international identity'.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:29 pm

Unity in Annan plan was just theoretical. In practice I didn't see any unity.
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