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Which EU coutnries WANT turkey in the EU

Benefits and problems from the EU membership.

Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:03 am

Agios . Yes But all these countries fail to see the potential of Turkey. At a time when Romania and other regions have been accepted for negotiations then I dont see why TUrkey should be refused to start negotiations!
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TURKISH OCCUPATION OF ANOTHER EU COUNTRY

Postby lysi » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:14 pm

michalis5354, are you kidding ? turkey can not expect to join the EU while at the same time occupying cyprus.
Also human rights dont exist in turkey. :roll:
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Postby Sotos » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:52 pm

cypezokyli wrote:too americanized....too muslim....!!!!

soto, make a choise

and dont take it as granted that they will stay poor for ever


ok I will clarify: Their government is too americanized and their people too muslim ;) I don't know if they will stay poor forever but for now most of them are poor and uneducated which results to them having too many children which means Turkey will have a pupulaton too big for EU to handle. :?
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Postby akiner » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:06 pm

Sotos wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:too americanized....too muslim....!!!!

soto, make a choise

and dont take it as granted that they will stay poor for ever


ok I will clarify: Their government isnt too americanized and their people also not too muslim ;) I don't know if they will stay poor forever but for now most of kurdish fools are poor and uneducated which results to them giving too many birth of children like rabbits which means Turkey will have a much more kurdish origined pupulaton so it is not too big for EU to handle because we love to feed terrorist as our habit. :?


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Postby Sotos » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:02 am

:lol: akinen, you do not like Kurds? How come you keep them poor and uneducated while you are rich and educated? ;)
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Postby akiner » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:47 am

Sotos wrote::lol: akinen, you do not like Kurds? How come you keep them poor and uneducated while you are rich and educated? ;)


You dont need to be educated to solve such an easy equation;

2 kurdish fools(one woman-one man) have not much daily income
with children => 10
means lack of education, health care, finding job possibilities...

Btw even with that conditions , once Eu countries like Southern Cyprus Greek Administiration,Denmark,Greece,Belgium..... stop encouraging Kurdish Terror, we can save 200$billion in 15 years to use on improvementing for some less developed areas instead wasting that much money on military activities to protect our lives...?!
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:10 am

emm .... akiner would you be kind enough too explain your signiture ?
i know it is kind of out of topic but i am not sure from which perspective you are arguing.
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Postby akiner » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:24 am

cypezokyli wrote:emm .... akiner would you be kind enough too explain your signiture ?
i know it is kind of out of topic but i am not sure from which perspective you are arguing.
thanks


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Turkish Ambassador to Germany, Volkan Vural, noted that German officials had held meetings with PKK militants and added that the PKK organization agreed to give up terrorist activities in Germany in exchange for German support for the organization. "It is difficult to understand why Germany, once determined to fight against terrorism, today voices support for the PKK terrorist organization," Vural said.

Vural added, "In order to protect its place in Germany, the PKK has decided to act in line with the regulations of the country. However, it should be very well known that the PKK is a terrorist organization. Turkey and Germany need each other and they should protect their mutual interests." /Cumhuriyet/



You just need to hit search button on the google, there are more than one incedents, you can find which shows which Eu countries have tight ties with an organization they once announced it was in the their own list of Terror....
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:00 am

ok... when i read the first sentence i understood : "supported" as money and guns.
if support means operate in germany , in the best7worse case they would have prevented that , and then the kurds would have applied to set up an organisation under a different name. i dont think the germans would have prevented that. its the essense that matters , and i dont think (even though i cannot exclude it - politics is dirty) that the germans would have given real financial or military support to PKK. now it also depends what support means. if the kurds create a lobby and buy a couple of german MPs and then they say : the kurd people regions are underdeveloped - then is that support for terrorists ? :wink:

but before you jump into conclusions (and we start any discussions that have been repeated here thousand of times ) i need to make myself clear.
first, as a cypriot , i am against the partition of turkey in any form. else , i wouldnt have a consistent thinking.

second i dont approve PKK methods nor the turkish methods to deal with PKK.

third no support for the PKK doesnot mean that i believe that the kurds are not discriminated in turkey.


the reason i was was asking from which perspective you wrote that is simple. it could have been from turkish perspective (as it is) from an islamist point of view or surprisingly wise from a communist point of view.
thanks for the clarification though.

if there are any plans to attack germany , let me know so i move back to cyprus :wink:
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:58 am

its funny that this article concerning the EU is published today :

from M.A.Birand

France began it, Britain resisted, and eventually the EU decided not to introduce a negotiation criterion that could have allowed pressure to be applied on Turkey for Kurdish to become a language of education. It was good news, and that must be why many ignored it.


http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=41967
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