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The Latvian Model for Cyprus

Postby Piratis » Sat May 20, 2006 12:33 am

Latvia is a small country of about 2 million people. It was part of the USSR superpower from 1940 until 1991. It has a 30% Russian minority and shares borders with Russia.

in 1991, Latvia did not become a great power, it is a small weak country as always. Russia did not become weak either. It is still a vast country with a great army, nuclear weapons etc.

Still, Latvia has managed to gain its independence. What it took was a change in the overall balance of power in the world.

If former USSR was unstable once, Turkey is 100 times as much. Republic of Cyprus should be preparing for the time that will reclaim its own land back and should not sign away anything.

It took for Latvia 51 years. for Cyprus it might take 50, 70 or 100. What is sure is that the balance of power will change and that we should be prepared to take advantage of it.

We tried negotiations and all that. It is now proven that no invader will abandon the land it took by war just because they were convinced from our right and just arguments.
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat May 20, 2006 1:53 am

the latvian model , the chechoslovakia model ....lets see what else we will listen in this island :roll:
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Postby Sotos » Sat May 20, 2006 2:03 am

cypezokyli wrote:the latvian model , the chechoslovakia model ....lets see what else we will listen in this island :roll:


the Switzerland model? ;) Wasn't that mentioned in Annan plan? :shock:
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Postby Mills Chapman » Sat May 20, 2006 4:51 am

While the Latvian model would be good for Cyprus, the Swedish ones would be the best. :wink:
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 20, 2006 1:54 pm

Not just the Swedish, but just any other EU model. However it seems that they want to force on us something that exists nowhere else, a custom made design to fit the needs of Turkey and UK/US, satisfy TCs and totally screw GCs without even giving them their human rights, as if GCs are animals and not humans.
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Re: The Latvian Model for Cyprus

Postby Antreis » Sat May 20, 2006 2:35 pm

Piratis wrote:Latvia is a small country of about 2 million people. It was part of the USSR superpower from 1940 until 1991. It has a 30% Russian minority and shares borders with Russia.

in 1991, Latvia did not become a great power, it is a small weak country as always. Russia did not become weak either. It is still a vast country with a great army, nuclear weapons etc.

Still, Latvia has managed to gain its independence. What it took was a change in the overall balance of power in the world.

If former USSR was unstable once, Turkey is 100 times as much. Republic of Cyprus should be preparing for the time that will reclaim its own land back and should not sign away anything.

It took for Latvia 51 years. for Cyprus it might take 50, 70 or 100. What is sure is that the balance of power will change and that we should be prepared to take advantage of it.

We tried negotiations and all that. It is now proven that no invader will abandon the land it took by war just because they were convinced from our right and just arguments.


I have to correct you:
It was not only Latvia but Estonia and Lithuania as well.
During the waiting time the Baltic republics' flags were proudly displayed outside of their pre-war official consulates in NY City.Apparently the US authorities encouraged the Baltic expatriates to do so as a political diversion and constant pressure to the almighty USSR of the era.Furthermore USA never recognized the occupation of the republics by USSR and on avery occsion it made that adamantly clear.
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P.S. Please anybody feel free to correct me of any misconceptions that i may have.
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Postby Alexander » Sat May 20, 2006 2:41 pm

Sotos wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:the latvian model , the chechoslovakia model ....lets see what else we will listen in this island :roll:


the Switzerland model? ;) Wasn't that mentioned in Annan plan? :shock:



Swiss model would be fine, if I had German, French or Italian neighbours. As it is , well no thanks.
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Postby sadik » Mon May 22, 2006 11:01 am

Mills Chapman wrote:While the Latvian model would be good for Cyprus, the Swedish ones would be the best. :wink:


I'm sure you prefer long-legged blonde models, rather than constitutional models. Most healthy people would, actually :)
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon May 22, 2006 11:59 am

i would for sure go for the swidish model(s)
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=h ... image&cd=1

:lol: :lol:
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Re: The Latvian Model for Cyprus

Postby sadik » Mon May 22, 2006 12:01 pm

Piratis wrote:Latvia is a small country of about 2 million people. It was part of the USSR superpower from 1940 until 1991. It has a 30% Russian minority and shares borders with Russia.

in 1991, Latvia did not become a great power, it is a small weak country as always. Russia did not become weak either. It is still a vast country with a great army, nuclear weapons etc.

Still, Latvia has managed to gain its independence. What it took was a change in the overall balance of power in the world.

If former USSR was unstable once, Turkey is 100 times as much. Republic of Cyprus should be preparing for the time that will reclaim its own land back and should not sign away anything.
If the USSR was more stable, why is Turkey still there and the USSR is shattered into 100 pieces with further potential of Russia breaking up into another 100 pieces.

It took for Latvia 51 years. for Cyprus it might take 50, 70 or 100. What is sure is that the balance of power will change and that we should be prepared to take advantage of it.

What if this balance of power changes the other way and Turkey tries to occupy even more land? Keeping this situation dragging on for too long is dangereous for all sides. But it's more risky for Cyprus. EU is not a military power yet (will it ever be?) and the security that EU provides is not enough. Besides, not everything will stay the same during this waiting period. Have you not heard of the rumors of the US looking for a way to build a base in the north?

We tried negotiations and all that. It is now proven that no invader will abandon the land it took by war just because they were convinced from our right and just arguments.


I do understand your frustration. But what we need to do is further negotiate in good faith and make sure that people nogotiating for us are more interested in a solution than their current posts. The responsibility is not only yours, we also need to make sure that our leaders stop asking for more and more, which ultimately paves the way for another rejection, and comprimise at a mutually acceptable level.
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