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Bakoyianni: New plan for unification based on EU reality

Postby Sotos » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:09 pm

Dora Bakoyianni announced that a new plan for the solution of the Cyprus problem will begin soon. This plan will be based on UN activities, EU reality of Cyprus and the goodwill of both sites of Cyprus for unification.
http://www.enet.gr/online/online_text/c=110,id=125780 - in Greek. When I find a news article in English about this I will post it.
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Postby Issy1956 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:07 pm

Sotos,
Thanks for the post I look forward to reading about it.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:16 pm

Bakoyianni sounds positive/optimistic!

But what are these minor differences with Papadopoulos she is referring!
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Re: Bakoyianni: New plan for unification based on EU reality

Postby cypezokyli » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:01 pm

Sotos wrote:This plan will be based on UN activities, EU reality of Cyprus and the goodwill of both sites of Cyprus for unification.
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it would be good to know what that actually means.
bc it seems that all actors participating in a solution understand sth completely different
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Postby webmagus » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:24 pm

Dora just playing their (Papadopulos, village fascists) game.

The Anan plan is dead. :lol:

We are going to bring a new solution named European solution with the Anan plan content, and if some one has any other idea he is not in contact with reality.

We are all alone, no one can play with us this ridicules game of the Euro village Cypriots.

Ex president of the Greek party Nea Dimokratia Miltiadis Evert have said what is time to Greece and Cyprus take separated way.

And some ridiculous who call them self politicians of Cyprus they still bullshiting us with a stupid propaganda.

Cyprus and Greece have problems in their relations from the start of this incredible thing we call democracy of Cyprus. Starting form this unthinkable papa president named Makarios who create a lot of problems to Greece and to the president George Papandreou who really make his best for Cyprus.

The history make a circle and I hope what the Europeans will put us in our place because why are dangerously stupid in all of our history as a Cyprus nation.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:31 am

Fascists are the ones that want to force Annan plan on Cypriots.

If you don't like the EU principles to be applied in Cyprus as well then whats stopping you from moving to a country like Turkey to enjoy thier version of democracy and human rights?
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:27 am

In English:

FM sees possible plan for a united European Cyprus'

Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis intimated at the possibility of a "Plan for a United European Cyprus" arising from the United Nations' reunification efforts, in an interview with an Athens daily in the paper's Sunday edition, as she reiterated that Athens and Nicosia were following a common strategy.

Asked whether she saw a new plan by UN secretary general Kofi Annan for a Cyprus solution on the horizon, Bakoyannis spoke of a new plan, which could be entitled "Plan for a United European Cyprus". She explained that such a plan would arise from the UN process and be based on elements of work accomplished at the level of the Secretary General, the European reality which Cyprus has been "living" over the past two-and-a-half years -- Cyprus and nine other countries officially became members of the EU on May 1, 2004 -- and the volition of the two communities on the divided island republic.

Asked whether the drafting of such a plan has commenced, Bakoyannis stressed that there was a new momentum following the meeting between Cyprus president Tassos Papadopoulos and the UN chief in Paris earlier in the year, and she expressed hope that talks would being soon at the technical committees' level but also with discussions of substance.

Questioned on her relations with Papadopoulos, Bakoyannis replied that "they are what the relations between the President of the Republic of Cyprus with the foreign minister of Greece should be". Asked whether they had different views as to how Cyprus and Greece should act on the issue, Bakoyannis said that "dialogue, in such instances, is always the best recipe".

"Our strategy is a common strategy. Other than that, there may sometimes be diverging views on specific tactical moves. But the constant contact, dialogue and cooperation lead to the best result," she explained.
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:15 am

The European Union support and voted yes to the Anan plan.

Off course there were problems on the plan.

But the plan was not Satan and was not dropped from sky.

It was based on our efforts of 30 years on a federation solution.

And there are two possible solutions.

a)Solution based on the constitution of Anan plan and the federation with changes.

b)Solution based on confederation (what Papadopoulos wants by my opinion).

All other bullshits about European solution are stupidities of nationalists Koutsou and Sillouris.

And no one dares to say such bullshits to Europeans because they will kick as very bud.

And off course there is a third solution, if Turkey will not be a member of Europe:

Unification with north Cyprus.

In such a “solution” Turkey will have the half island and the half of the other half.

The TC’s as Europeans they will get their properties and in north Cyprus their will be only Turks. Maybe 1 or 2 millions.

Poda dika mas tzie potzi pomisiarika.

I’ve read what Dora said(in Greek Eleftherotipia newspaper) and it’s clear what there is a big distance with Fotinoulis and is more clear what Miltiades Evert said.

Europeans will never let us to block Turkey because of many issues and because of the above threat.

If our politicians are more than stupid they will block Turkey as a night mare will come on realyty.

I don’t really believe what Fotinoulis means this bullshits. :!:
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Postby stuballstu » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:53 am

What happens if ROC dont like what Greece propose?
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:52 pm

I don’t believe (I can’t even imagine) what the Europeans will let EuroTalibans to destroy them.

Most probably we'll be forced (both sides) to negotiations and nothing will happens.

After that my scenario of a and b solution is the only thing exists for Europeans.

The bullshits about what we are in position to threat Turkey is just for killing our time.

Dora Bakogiani just try to save as from our self’s and she pushing the situation for a solution as soon as possible based on federation.

But I’m afraid what their will not be a solution in the next years (the years we’ll have this Taliban government).

Because is more that certain that the most of the fascists prefer a confederation and they want to push things to the limits with out take the blame for the division.

And this is how the secrets are created.

Put some myth put some nationalism put some bullshits and you will be placed in history as a great hero bullshitter like Makarios Grivas etc.

And you will be the loved one of the fascist Greek god of orthodoxy or the fascist Turk god of Muslim.

Exactly like Taliban’s.
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