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[Alasya]

I feel we need to have this discussion, as this question spills into every political question in this forum. Population statistics, whether official, unofficial, estimated, exaggerated or fabricated seem to be the source of most peoples arguments in this forum. So for the record, lets have this discussion.


Are the Turkish Cypriots a minority? discuss.

[metecyp]

Are the Turkish Cypriots a minority? discuss.

This depends on the context. In terms of numbers, yes, Turkish Cypriots are a minority. In political terms, no, they are not. I don't want to get into a historical debate over this. I'll just take 1960 agreements as baseline. According to the 1960 constitution, TCs are one of the founding members of the Republic of Cyprus and hence not a minority. Many aspects of the RoC make sure that TCs are not treated as a mere minority.

[Piratis]

Already discussed in a 17 page thread:

Some Turkish Cypriots say that Greek Cypriots are nationalists, and indeed some are.

But apparently almost all Turkish Cypriots have adopted some of the most extreme nationalistic views, and they don't even realize it.

An evidence for that is their claim that Turkish Cypriots are not a minority. Before 1974 Turkish Cypriots were 18% (today they are less than 12% by the way). The fact is that an 18% of anything is a minority. Thats simple maths. Its a paradox to claim otherwise.

So there is no way that this 18% will not be minority?
There is, only one: To take this 18% out of its group and put it into a separate entity on its own. In the case of Turkish Cypriots, to take them out of the group called Cypriots and put them alone in a separate entity.
The only result that can be achieved if this attempt is successful is partition (standard or disguised one, like the Annan plan).

Unfortunately most TC adopted the claim that TC are not a minority because the people that were always planning the partition of Cyprus (nationalists TC like Denctash, Turkey etc) convinced them.

Today most TC believe that being a minority equals having no rights, and that by being a minority GC will in some way harm them. This is totally wrong. Today we could be discussing on how we could help the TC community to achieve higher standards and ways to safeguard the security and rights of TC (in addition to EU laws).

The people that convinced you that you are not a minority are the same ones that were planing the partition of Cyprus long time before 1974. They know, that no solution will be ever found if TC insist on the paradox that they are not a minority, and this serves their aim which is the partition of Cyprus.

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[MicAtCyp]

To all newcomers.
I would sugest before poping in, to spend some time watching what other people in here discuss, read some past threads, get informed, and THEN paricipate.
And after you really know what is going on, by joining other discussions, then consider starting a new thread on a subject that worries you or think would be interesting.

[brother]

Good advice, take it and by all means we look forward to all newcomers imput.