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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:56 am

the film is supposed to present a love story in cyprus between a gc and a tc. inside, there is a scene shwoing one eoka supporter killing another person.

that was enough for the ministry of education and culture not to give financial support to the film.
the film , which by the way will represent cyprus in the moovie festival in venice.

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

let us all praise those officials who :

decided not to support a cypriot film in an international festival

use political criteria in order to finance a moovie. considering the high costs for making a moovie nowadays , it is an indirect cencorship as far as i am concerned.

obviously we still have problems with our pure, faultless past. any different opinion....well....you know...cyprus :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:52 pm

Your link doesn't work.

I think that such films should keep out of politics or if they want to be political they should present a correct (not one sided) historical perspective.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:32 pm

bc it went into archives :wink:

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

heres another link :
http://www.phileleftheros.com/main/main.asp?gid=134

it seems it is the first cypriot film that will ever represent cyprus in such a festival. we should be proud of the director
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Postby Natty » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:06 am

Hey, I believe that part of the problem is the fact the the 'Cyprus problem' is still on going, and the history of the 'Cyprus Problem' hasn't really been agreed on yet, so I guess if your going to include the history of politics in a film about Cyprus, you have to decide who's 'history' your going to represent...people will always claim that it's biased towards the other side...plus the film can always be used for propaganda purposes by either community, to prove that the other side did 'this towards us, that's why we did this, etc'. I suppose what I'm trying to say is, it can never just be a film....(If that makes sense).

Obviously I don't know exactly the contend of the film, so I don't know whether It's biased or not, I mean the 'Minestry for Education and Culture' could just be being stupid and paranoid...if this is the case, all I can say is that, they need to 'lighten up a bit'! :)

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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:24 am

Natty wrote:Hey, I believe that part of the problem is the fact the the 'Cyprus problem' is still on going, and the history of the 'Cyprus Problem' hasn't really been agreed on yet, so I guess if your going to include the history of politics in a film about Cyprus, you have to decide who's 'history' your going to represent...people will always claim that it's biased towards the other side...plus the film can always be used for propaganda purposes by either community, to prove that the other side did 'this towards us, that's why we did this, etc'. I suppose what I'm trying to say is, it can never just be a film....(If that makes sense).

Obviously I don't know exactly the contend of the film, so I don't know whether It's biased or not, I mean the 'Minestry for Education and Culture' could just be being stupid and paranoid...if this is the case, all I can say is that, they need to 'lighten up a bit'! :)

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i tottaly disagree.
there is no part of history that "it is agreed upon".
history is about opinions (and that is actually its beauty) , and the more opinions one is allowed to listen to , the better it is in order to form his own.

all historical films are propaganda. all of them. that is no excuse for not following the same rules that are followed when sponsoring all other cyprus films. it is the double standards that it is the point in this case.
and the fact that the goverment sets political criteria on a film

not to mention that they are about to blow the showing of the first cypriot film in an international festival.
the chances are that those people in that department of the ministry of education and culture , have any other qualification besides culture or cinema
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:16 am

preciselly the point :

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... -V=columns

it is art. and if you take away its freedom it is not art anymore
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Postby Natty » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:38 pm

I agree although I suppose what I'm saying is that Cyprus problem is still pretty raw, and a film about the politics of the Island could still be used against a certain community...If Cyprus was reunififed then i don't think it would have been a problem....

Although I do think the film should have been passed...

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Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:20 am

tottaly disagree.
there is no part of history that "it is agreed upon".
history is about opinions (and that is actually its beauty) , and the more opinions one is allowed to listen to , the better it is in order to form his own.

all historical films are propaganda. all of them. that is no excuse for not following the same rules that are followed when sponsoring all other cyprus films. it is the double standards that it is the point in this case.


I don't know about this film, but I will answer to your comments in general, not about this particular film.

So what you are saying is that our government should pay by using the money of Greek Cypriots (including the GC refugees) to finance any kind of film even if that film is nothing more than Turkish propaganda?

Do you know that there are countries other than Armenia where it is illegal to deny the Armenian genocide? Do you think Turkey or any other country would finance a propaganda movie against them?

Come on Cypezokyli, what are you talking about??

In Cyprus we have freedom of speech in that anybody can say his opinion, make films, write songs etc. Thats one thing, and demanding to be financed by us, the taxpayers, to produce propaganda against us is totally ridiculous. I hope you understand this.
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Postby Apollonios » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:55 pm

The Cypriot malakes some day must know the truth and it’s better to pay money than blood to learn about their history.

Cyrus is the only “European” country were use middle ages methods to censorship movies against their myths, is nice that we parallel our stupidity with the Turks because we are the same shit.

The fascist government were make us seems like talibans was the sponsor the 20% of the film from the European money (not even GC money) and to give this money they mast cut a scene that shows a simple and almost meaningless truth. These talibanistic methods shamed us in whole Europe and especially in our first participation in an international event. Even the “misinformed” Americans we accuse don’t use such methods to cut the other side opinion and this is not the Turkey opinion either the TC opinion but it was (as it seems) the opinion of the 30%+ of the population (Akel) that now they prefer to give their ass to this fascists and sell their soul than to loose their positions in this stupid ridiculous shameless government.

http://www.makarios.ws/cgibin/hweb?-A=1564&-V=index

I don’t expect from any talibanistic zombie to understand.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:20 pm

Only dictatorial regimes interfere in the work of artists. As plain as that.
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