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MY plan (the best one yet, I think)

Postby Niyaz2137 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:40 pm

Here's the plan I made for a Cyprus solution:

1. First, get rid of ALL foreign troops IMMEDIATELY in Cyprus. The UN can protect Cyprus while is developes it's OWN armies.

2. No more border between North and South. No bi-zonal agreement, just ONE Cyprus.

3. ALL illegals MUST leave.

4. Those whose property was taken from them in 1974 will have their property returned. Those who are living on the returned property will be compensated to find something new.

5. A new language system. First, create a writing system and education for the Cypriot dialect. Make the dialect of Nicosia the OFFICIAL dialect of Cyprus. Same goes for Turkish. Both CYPRIOT GREEK AND TURKISH will be the OFFICIAL languages of Cyprus, and it will be mandatory to learn both in schools.

6. There will be a new government. Something similar to Lebanon. There will be equal representation between ethnic Greeks and ethnic Turks in Parliament by law. And also by law the President MUST be a Turkish Muslim and the Prime Minister a Greek Orthodox or visa-versa.

7. ALL religious buildings will be restored whether they are Church or Mosque. That means abandoned ones along with destroyed ones. Therefore, the official religions of Cyprus will be both Greek Orthodoxy AND Islam. A Ministry of Religion will provide finances for both religions and such

8. The flag of Cyprus will be the original Flag of Cyprus. No changes. After all it WAS a Turk who made the flag that the south uses.

9. There will be a new Nastional Anthem written for the country.

and that's my plan. What do you think?
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:28 pm

Our newcomer wrote:
"""Therefore, the official religions of Cyprus will be both Greek Orthodoxy AND Islam. A Ministry of Religion will provide finances for both religions and such ""

Why not abolish both of the religions and have a new one, an up todate modern religion that all Cypriots can feel attached to it. Perhaps one that no Cypriot will reject , one that builds hospitals , provides care for the sick and the misfortunate amongst us , provides holiday breaks , new handbags, shoes expensive cloths and expensive cars, one that we will all embrace and want more of.
As far no.9 on the list , again an anthem that is relevant to todays needs , how about one singing the praise of smoking , eating souvla, drinking zivania , and making pots of money!!

Dont like no 6 :""Something similar to Lebanon ""F..k that mate do we want bloody HEZBOLAH preaching to us and inviting Israeli strikes !!
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:26 am

some good points , and a couple who are impossible to achieve (1-3) .
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Postby Piratis » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:37 am

cypezokyli wrote:some good points , and a couple who are impossible to achieve (1-3) .


And how do you define "impossible" in this case?

Judging from the points that you classed as "impossible" it seems that for you impossible are what the practitionists rejects. If they reject something does it make it impossible?

Does it work on the opposite way also? E.g. everything that GCs reject is impossible also? If this is the case then anything resembling the Annan plan should be classed as impossible, right?

Niyaz2137, your points are very good. What I believe is not possible is 5. First of all languages are not created just like this. They evolve. Also today, with globalization, languages spoken by few people disappear. Having a language that only 700.000 (or even worst 150.000 in case of TCs) can speak and write is not feasible.
I believe that both Greek and Turkish should be official, and maybe English for certain occasions as well.
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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:44 am

miltiades wrote:Our newcomer wrote:
"""Therefore, the official religions of Cyprus will be both Greek Orthodoxy AND Islam. A Ministry of Religion will provide finances for both religions and such ""

Why not abolish both of the religions and have a new one, an up todate modern religion that all Cypriots can feel attached to it. Perhaps one that no Cypriot will reject , one that builds hospitals , provides care for the sick and the misfortunate amongst us , provides holiday breaks , new handbags, shoes expensive cloths and expensive cars, one that we will all embrace and want more of.
As far no.9 on the list , again an anthem that is relevant to todays needs , how about one singing the praise of smoking , eating souvla, drinking zivania , and making pots of money!!

Dont like no 6 :""Something similar to Lebanon ""F..k that mate do we want bloody HEZBOLAH preaching to us and inviting Israeli strikes !!


LoL, cute. Yet somehow I feel like making up religions doesn't fly too well on the sanity meter.

We COULD start calling it the "Cypriot Orthodox Church" seeing as the Church IS autocephalous and all

LoL... as for the Lebanon thing... I WAS going to call it the "Lebanon model" but with recent events, i don't think that's good advertising.
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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:54 am

cypezokyli wrote:some good points , and a couple who are impossible to achieve (1-3) .


It's only impossible because those idiots in charge make it impossible. Turkey will NEVER give up their share of Cyprus... and as for super-traditional Greeks... I can just IMAGINE what they would think of a country where Turks and Greeks are the same people, and both religions co-exsist side-by-side

I've always said that the ONLY reason I'd like to see Hagia Sophia restored back to an Orthodox Church is: think about the concept:

The GREATEST and MOST BEAUTIFUL and WONDEROUS Christian Church EVER BUILT in HISTORY

across from

The GREATEST and MOST BEAUTIFUL and WONDEROUS Mosque EVER BUILT in HISTORY

think about what that would symbolise

and now think about what a unified Cyprus would symbolise.

It COULD knock some sense into Greece and Turkey's head. Make them realise that they are practically the same people.

Imagine that one day Greece and Turkey unified into one country? that would be crazy. Something the world would stand in awe at.

And somthing the EU and ruling powers would NEVER let happen.
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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:59 am

Piratis wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:some good points , and a couple who are impossible to achieve (1-3) .


And how do you define "impossible" in this case?

Judging from the points that you classed as "impossible" it seems that for you impossible are what the practitionists rejects. If they reject something does it make it impossible?

Does it work on the opposite way also? E.g. everything that GCs reject is impossible also? If this is the case then anything resembling the Annan plan should be classed as impossible, right?

Niyaz2137, your points are very good. What I believe is not possible is 5. First of all languages are not created just like this. They evolve. Also today, with globalization, languages spoken by few people disappear. Having a language that only 700.000 (or even worst 150.000 in case of TCs) can speak and write is not feasible.
I believe that both Greek and Turkish should be official, and maybe English for certain occasions as well.


Yes, BUT Jews revived Hebrew... a dead language.

Cypriots could do it. and it would be forced to become an EU language.

beside... at least Greek Cypriot is like... what Greek is to Cypriot Greek is what Spanish is to Portuguese
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Postby Natty » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:13 am

Hey, I could be wrong, but I believe that Turkish in the Republic of Cyprus is an official language...although again I could be wrong...

I believe that both Greek and Turkish should be taught in school..

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Postby Natty » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:17 am

About the Greek Cypriot language...I think it's more of a greek dialect/accent, kind of like the different accents in England.....okay maybe thats not a great example....

Actually I don't know...I suppose it could be possible to teach 'Greek Cypriot' as a written language...

It's a tough one...

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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:02 am

Natty wrote:About the Greek Cypriot language...I think it's more of a greek dialect/accent, kind of like the different accents in England.....okay maybe thats not a great example....

Actually I don't know...I suppose it could be possible to teach 'Greek Cypriot' as a written language...

It's a tough one...

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Not quite... it's more like the difference between say... Castillian Spanish and Galician Spanish
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