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Postby magikthrill » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:36 am

i agree. many of the GCs that live abroad just want an end to a partition and they don't mind a 2 state solution. of course thats probably because they dont plan on ever going back to their north properties anyway.
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Postby brother » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:14 pm

Magikthrill do a poll on it and ask gc/tc forum users what they think.
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Postby erolz » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:58 pm

boulio wrote:has anyone in cyprus every done a case study or gallop poll to see what the people actually want?Im a greek-american living in the states and work with GC'S and many of them have expressed to me that a viable solution would actually be full partion between the communities especially from the youger generation,im sure turkey would jump at the chance with large concesions of land to the ROC IN return for diplomatic recogniton of the "trnc".


I believe that such a solution would be and would have been accpetable to TC and Turkey. The fact is though that such an agreed partition has never been acceptable to GC (political leadership). Not in 1960. Not in 1974 and not today.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:15 pm

Erol wrote: Yet you continue to insist that all the rights we had under _the agreed and negotiated_ 1960 agreements were just 'gifts'. If they were gifts who was the giver?


That's right. At least 50% of it. The donator was her majesty, as a gift for your loyalty and as a seed for preserving their divide and rule policy that would ensure their permanent control.

And by the way those rights were never negotiated. It was either take it, or we partition Cyprus and give half of it to Turkey.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:43 pm

I do not know how many people would support an agreed partition, what I know however is that a)this would mean the end of the TCs in Cyprus and their complete substitution by settlers b)That no GC president can sign anything like that even if 90%+ of the GC people have wanted it. It is beyond his juristiction and it is against everything the RoC currently is i.e a full member of the Eu with ALL its geographical area.
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Postby brother » Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:17 pm

You shouldn't be in the E.U anyway, unless there had been a solution to the cyprus problem.
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Postby magikthrill » Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:28 pm

brother,

the RoC entered the EU to find a solution for the problem., so why would they have voted for a solution that was unfair.

As fas as with the few Cypriots (3) that I have talked with here in America, here is what they told me:

1) 22 yo male, father from ormideia in onccupied cyprus. mother from occupied cyprus.
he claims that the cypriots should have voted yes because he wants everything to end. this is surprising because his mother wouldnt have gotten her land back with Annan plan, but either way if he every goes back to Cyprus he would stay in the south

2 + 3) 25 y.o f Lefkosia, 28 y.o. m Lefkosa--> they claim that the cypriots who voted NO were miseducated and that if more cyprios in america had the chance to vote the 75% would have been a lot less. they are both engineering PhD students at my university.

of course all this takes into the account that the effect of the Annan plan would have been basically a permanent parition of the island.
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Postby brother » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:44 pm

What do you think is the best solution.
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