Turkey should forget about the privileged partnership also
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| MR-from-NG |
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| Elaborate on what? its as clear as day. You should take your blindfold off. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:59 am |
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| pitsilos |
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really? and which part didn't you get? or rather having a hard time getting you head around?
the only news we see is that the eu, and not the roc, insisting turkey own up to what she signed? now why is that?
as far as anyone is concerned the roc came to the rescue of turkey in accepting a deal in order to help turkey meet her obligations, {you} blink blink re signing of protocal, just a friendly reminder.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:37 am |
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| miltiades |
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VP , Yes I did state that I would not respond to your posts but being the moderate Cypriot that I'm have reascended on my earlier post. I have always believed in interacting with those that I feel a close relationship and you my dear VP , being a Cypriot and born within a stones throw from where I was , is such a person .You are fighting your corner and sticking to your guns , but to get any where you must keep an open mind and see the other persons point of view also . I said earlier that I understand Turkeys reluctance to officially recognise the ROC and I disagree with this position since it is a totaly futile exercise that the entire world finds un acceptable. As you say , Turkey would be shooting it self in the foot since recognising Cyprus would also imply that she admits to being an occupying power .Well to the rest of the world that is precisely what Turkey is. Occupying a part of Cyprus against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the natives. Yes there are extraordinary implications and our leaders ought to persevere in the negotiations that will lead to a final solution,. It takes guts to compromise and it takes politicians with wisdom and diplomacy to achieve this, it also takes people like you and me to be respectful to each other and to be able to address each others concerns in an unbiased fashion.
Finally let me ask you something. Would you have any preconceived concerns in being my neighbor in a new united Cyprus ? |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:33 pm |
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| miltiades wrote: |
VP , Yes I did state that I would not respond to your posts but being the moderate Cypriot that I'm have reascended on my earlier post. I have always believed in interacting with those that I feel a close relationship and you my dear VP , being a Cypriot and born within a stones throw from where I was , is such a person .You are fighting your corner and sticking to your guns , but to get any where you must keep an open mind and see the other persons point of view also . I said earlier that I understand Turkeys reluctance to officially recognise the ROC and I disagree with this position since it is a totaly futile exercise that the entire world finds un acceptable. As you say , Turkey would be shooting it self in the foot since recognising Cyprus would also imply that she admits to being an occupying power .Well to the rest of the world that is precisely what Turkey is. Occupying a part of Cyprus against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the natives. Yes there are extraordinary implications and our leaders ought to persevere in the negotiations that will lead to a final solution,. It takes guts to compromise and it takes politicians with wisdom and diplomacy to achieve this, it also takes people like you and me to be respectful to each other and to be able to address each others concerns in an unbiased fashion.
Finally let me ask you something. Would you have any preconceived concerns in being my neighbor in a new united Cyprus ? |
With respect the whole world accepts that Turkey is an occupying power but with a lot of becauses after the fact. That statement cannot stand out on its own. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:31 pm |
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| miltiades |
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| Zan , you are correct in your statement. I think the impartial worldwide opinion would agree that there was indeed a motivatingly powerful element in Turkey's decision to invade. I , as you must surely know by now , happen to be an individual who understands the concerns of my T/C countrymen and where there are legitimate grounds I will fight their cause. Both communities must however respect each others concerns , I think that flexing a muscle and bragging " we are bigger than you " we are the majority " we are legal you are not " most definitely will not be conducive to finding a solution. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:59 pm |
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| miltiades wrote: |
| Zan , you are correct in your statement. I think the impartial worldwide opinion would agree that there was indeed a motivatingly powerful element in Turkey's decision to invade. I , as you must surely know by now , happen to be an individual who understands the concerns of my T/C countrymen and where there are legitimate grounds I will fight their cause. Both communities must however respect each others concerns , I think that flexing a muscle and bragging " we are bigger than you " we are the majority " we are legal you are not " most definitely will not be conducive to finding a solution. |
Thank you sir and I agree with what you say. Sometimes though it is hard not to respond when you feel that the person whose work you have read has bent the facts a wee bit too much. |
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